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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 1588706" data-attributes="member: 5834">The best melee munchkin class does not always mean the best in one on one combat. I already illustrated my points as to why this class is much better than the fighter in Player vs. Adventure scenarios, the majority of D&D gaming.Just because a Paladin can't beat a fighter in one on one combat hardly means its not better than a fighter.You completely ignore my other points to focus on what...one on one combat...something that few players engage in?Save that the majority of adventuring involves facing evil opponents and a Paladin has a better rate of long term survival while only being marginally less efficient than a fighter in melee.Your above statement is utterly false that it is a laughable.Another laughable statement. I can back up what I say with years of testing as well. The Paladin is the strongest melee class you can play (strongest Player vs. Adventure melee class, only marginally less strong in one-on-one combat).I've already stated my reasons, which are irrefutable without resorting to "my fighter can take one level of cleric".</blockquote>