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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 3318304" data-attributes="member: 3146">Make that cannot be effectively combined without Improved Buckler Defense. Without Improved Buckler Defense, you lose the shield bonus when you use the arm to attack with your greatsword thus rendering Divine Shield a glorified Full Defense that isn't as good (for this character), doesn't apply to touch attacks, and costs you a feat.But only if you have both divine shield AND improved buckler defense and spend a standard action to use divine shield in combat. If, like the character in question, you have one feat to improve your AC, Divine Shield is not a good deal.In terms of Living Greyhawk, 15th level is high level. After that, the character retires. Now, IIRC, you could take Pious Templar as your 6th level if you wanted to which would put Pious Templar 10 at 15th level. And, Pious Templar casting 2/2/2/1 is better than a 15th level paladin with 2/1/1/1. And since the paladin only just barely gets 4th level spells at 14th level, I think the Pious Templar edges him out by a level or so (again, not consulting the books). For this character, I was wrong and Pious Templar would not edge out Paladin spellcasting at any level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 3318304, member: 3146"] Make that cannot be effectively combined without Improved Buckler Defense. Without Improved Buckler Defense, you lose the shield bonus when you use the arm to attack with your greatsword thus rendering Divine Shield a glorified Full Defense that isn't as good (for this character), doesn't apply to touch attacks, and costs you a feat. But only if you have both divine shield AND improved buckler defense and spend a standard action to use divine shield in combat. If, like the character in question, you have one feat to improve your AC, Divine Shield is not a good deal. In terms of Living Greyhawk, 15th level is high level. After that, the character retires. Now, IIRC, you could take Pious Templar as your 6th level if you wanted to which would put Pious Templar 10 at 15th level. And, Pious Templar casting 2/2/2/1 is better than a 15th level paladin with 2/1/1/1. And since the paladin only just barely gets 4th level spells at 14th level, I think the Pious Templar edges him out by a level or so (again, not consulting the books). For this character, I was wrong and Pious Templar would not edge out Paladin spellcasting at any level. [/QUOTE]

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