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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mneme" data-source="post: 5678045" data-attributes="member: 59248">Warlord is always a great choice.  Runepriests are pretty interesting, but they're also hella complicated for you and for your party (constantly shifting bonuses), so there are some minuses there.  Clerics are fine too.That said, why do you want not to have a dump stat?  Is this a RP thing or what?  The reasons I like the 8 dump stat are:1. No downside. A dump stat will never affect any of your defenses (as the other stat in the pair will always cover the stat), and there are no classes that can't afford to take one off one of their sets of skills, which is pretty much all of what a dump stat affects.  Nobody dumps con (very close to nobody, anyway), but every other stat has a good argument for dumping it in the right circumstances--even Dex, for high-wisdom classes that can take a feat to use wisdom for Init.2. Dump stats establish character.  Sure, if you're a wizard, having a low Str doesn't hurt you much, and if you're a cleric, you can probably afford to dump Dex without it hurting you beyond pushing you into a feat you're going to want anyway.  And nearly everyone dumps Int who doesn't have a good selection of knowledge skills or Int as a primary/secondary ability.  But having something you're weak in means that's something you can yield to other characters, and can help establish a personality niche -- the wise fighter disdains intillectual pursuits, but has his own canniness; the weak wizard avoids lifting and carrying; the reckless rogue can talk his way out of trouble as easily as he runs straight into it, and so on.  Even a monk tends towards the "fast, strong and silent type", capable of daring feats of strength and wisdom, but knowing when to keep her mouth shut (most of the time).</blockquote>

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