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<blockquote data-quote="SLOTHmaster" data-source="post: 5914149" data-attributes="member: 6684832"><p>From wikipedia: </p><p>The earliest recorded instance of the word <em>paladin</em> in the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/English_language" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">English language</span></a> dates to 1592, in a poem written by <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Samuel_Daniel" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Samuel Daniel</span></a>.<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-OED-0" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">[1]</span></a> It entered English through the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Middle_French" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Middle French</span></a> word <em>paladin</em>, which itself derived from the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Italian_language" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Italian</span></a> <em>paladino</em>.<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-OED-0" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">[1]</span></a> All these words for <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Charlemagne" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Charlemagne</span></a>'s Twelve Peers descend ultimately from the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Latin" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Latin</span></a> <em><a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Palatine" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">palatinus</span></a>,</em> most likely through the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Old_French" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Old French</span></a> <em>palatin</em>.<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-OED-0" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">[1]</span></a> The Latin <em>palatinus</em> referred to an official of the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Roman_Emperor" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Roman Emperor</span></a> connected to the imperial palace on the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Palatine_Hill" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Palatine Hill</span></a>; over time this word came to refer to other high-level officials in the imperial, majestic and royal courts.<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-Palatine-1" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">[2]</span></a> The word <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Palatine" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">palatine</span></a>, used in various European countries in the medieval and modern eras, has the same derivation.<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-Palatine-1" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">[2]</span></a></p><p>By the 13th century words referring specifically to Charlemagne's peers began appearing in European languages; the earliest is the Italian <em>paladino</em>.<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-OED-0" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">[1]</span></a> Modern French has <em>paladin</em>, <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Spanish_language" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Spanish</span></a> has <em>paladín</em> or <em>paladino</em> (reflecting alternate derivations from the French and Italian), while <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/German_language" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">German</span></a> has <em>Paladin</em>.<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-OED-0" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">[1]</span></a> By extension "paladin" has come to refer to any chivalrous hero such as <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/King_Arthur" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">King Arthur</span></a>'s <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_Round_Table" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Knights of the Round Table</span></a>.<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-OED-0" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">[1]</span></a></p><p>Paladin was also used to refer to the leaders of armies supporting the Protestant <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Frederick_V,_Elector_Palatine" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Frederick V</span></a> in the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Thirty_Years_War" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">Thirty Years War</span></a> ending in 1648.<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-2" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0645ad">[3]</span></a></p><p> </p><p>I don't get why that has to be lawful good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SLOTHmaster, post: 5914149, member: 6684832"] From wikipedia: The earliest recorded instance of the word [I]paladin[/I] in the [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/English_language"][COLOR=#0645ad]English language[/COLOR][/URL] dates to 1592, in a poem written by [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Samuel_Daniel"][COLOR=#0645ad]Samuel Daniel[/COLOR][/URL].[URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-OED-0"][COLOR=#0645ad][1][/COLOR][/URL] It entered English through the [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Middle_French"][COLOR=#0645ad]Middle French[/COLOR][/URL] word [I]paladin[/I], which itself derived from the [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Italian_language"][COLOR=#0645ad]Italian[/COLOR][/URL] [I]paladino[/I].[URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-OED-0"][COLOR=#0645ad][1][/COLOR][/URL] All these words for [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Charlemagne"][COLOR=#0645ad]Charlemagne[/COLOR][/URL]'s Twelve Peers descend ultimately from the [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Latin"][COLOR=#0645ad]Latin[/COLOR][/URL] [I][URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Palatine"][COLOR=#0645ad]palatinus[/COLOR][/URL],[/I] most likely through the [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Old_French"][COLOR=#0645ad]Old French[/COLOR][/URL] [I]palatin[/I].[URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-OED-0"][COLOR=#0645ad][1][/COLOR][/URL] The Latin [I]palatinus[/I] referred to an official of the [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Roman_Emperor"][COLOR=#0645ad]Roman Emperor[/COLOR][/URL] connected to the imperial palace on the [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Palatine_Hill"][COLOR=#0645ad]Palatine Hill[/COLOR][/URL]; over time this word came to refer to other high-level officials in the imperial, majestic and royal courts.[URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-Palatine-1"][COLOR=#0645ad][2][/COLOR][/URL] The word [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Palatine"][COLOR=#0645ad]palatine[/COLOR][/URL], used in various European countries in the medieval and modern eras, has the same derivation.[URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-Palatine-1"][COLOR=#0645ad][2][/COLOR][/URL] By the 13th century words referring specifically to Charlemagne's peers began appearing in European languages; the earliest is the Italian [I]paladino[/I].[URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-OED-0"][COLOR=#0645ad][1][/COLOR][/URL] Modern French has [I]paladin[/I], [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Spanish_language"][COLOR=#0645ad]Spanish[/COLOR][/URL] has [I]paladín[/I] or [I]paladino[/I] (reflecting alternate derivations from the French and Italian), while [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/German_language"][COLOR=#0645ad]German[/COLOR][/URL] has [I]Paladin[/I].[URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-OED-0"][COLOR=#0645ad][1][/COLOR][/URL] By extension "paladin" has come to refer to any chivalrous hero such as [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/King_Arthur"][COLOR=#0645ad]King Arthur[/COLOR][/URL]'s [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_Round_Table"][COLOR=#0645ad]Knights of the Round Table[/COLOR][/URL].[URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-OED-0"][COLOR=#0645ad][1][/COLOR][/URL] Paladin was also used to refer to the leaders of armies supporting the Protestant [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Frederick_V,_Elector_Palatine"][COLOR=#0645ad]Frederick V[/COLOR][/URL] in the [URL="http://www.enworld.org/wiki/Thirty_Years_War"][COLOR=#0645ad]Thirty Years War[/COLOR][/URL] ending in 1648.[URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/#cite_note-2"][COLOR=#0645ad][3][/COLOR][/URL] I don't get why that has to be lawful good. [/QUOTE]
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