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paladin divine challenge at the end of a turn?
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<blockquote data-quote="Maxim Machinery" data-source="post: 4426044" data-attributes="member: 74579"><p>Sigh, not this again. Yes, Divine Challenge <em>ends</em> when you fail to engage, or when you challenge another target. Thus, the Divine Challenge you used against your first target is now <em>over,</em> and any limitations it might apply to your actions are null and void. However, you have now used Divine Challenge against a (different) target, and are subject to all the limitations that entails, including the fact that this - new - Divine Challenge will end unless you:</p><p> </p><p>A) Engage the second, new, target or;</p><p>B) Challenge another (third) target</p><p> </p><p>As you can only use Divine Challenge once per turn, you cannot take option B in this scenario, and as it was your final action that turn, you can only qualify A if you are adjacent to your new target, or with an action point spent to attack it or move adjacent to it (unless you attacked it earlier in the turn).</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Emphasis mine. What makes you think that it is not <em>also</em> applicable to the new challenge target? You have activated your Divine Challenge power, - which, incidentally, ends the challenge you had on the previous target, if they were still alive - and are subject to all its drawbacks.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Flase assumption. The power does not state 'you must engage the target before the end of your next turn,' it states you must engage it 'on your turn.' By using your last minor action to challenge a new target, you have successfully completed the ending condition for the <em>first</em> challenge, but the <em>second</em> one now requires you to engage the <em>second</em> target, or challenge a new, <em>third</em> target, which you cannot do until your next turn, due to the limitation on Divine Challenge's use.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>No rule states this. All it says is that I must '<u>on my turn</u>' engage the target. If I attack, then Challenge, I have, indeed, engaged the target, '<u>on my turn</u>.' In this case, powers are (or this power, at least, is), in fact, retroactive.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxim Machinery, post: 4426044, member: 74579"] Sigh, not this again. Yes, Divine Challenge [I]ends[/I] when you fail to engage, or when you challenge another target. Thus, the Divine Challenge you used against your first target is now [I]over,[/I] and any limitations it might apply to your actions are null and void. However, you have now used Divine Challenge against a (different) target, and are subject to all the limitations that entails, including the fact that this - new - Divine Challenge will end unless you: A) Engage the second, new, target or; B) Challenge another (third) target As you can only use Divine Challenge once per turn, you cannot take option B in this scenario, and as it was your final action that turn, you can only qualify A if you are adjacent to your new target, or with an action point spent to attack it or move adjacent to it (unless you attacked it earlier in the turn). Emphasis mine. What makes you think that it is not [I]also[/I] applicable to the new challenge target? You have activated your Divine Challenge power, - which, incidentally, ends the challenge you had on the previous target, if they were still alive - and are subject to all its drawbacks. Flase assumption. The power does not state 'you must engage the target before the end of your next turn,' it states you must engage it 'on your turn.' By using your last minor action to challenge a new target, you have successfully completed the ending condition for the [I]first[/I] challenge, but the [I]second[/I] one now requires you to engage the [I]second[/I] target, or challenge a new, [I]third[/I] target, which you cannot do until your next turn, due to the limitation on Divine Challenge's use. No rule states this. All it says is that I must '[U]on my turn[/U]' engage the target. If I attack, then Challenge, I have, indeed, engaged the target, '[U]on my turn[/U].' In this case, powers are (or this power, at least, is), in fact, retroactive. [/QUOTE]
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