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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SullyGamer" data-source="post: 6401682" data-attributes="member: 6782242">EDIT: Fundamentally flawed, will replace later.Edit 2: You can find the updated version here:<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?368127-Paladin-Fighter-Rogue-Part-Deux" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?368127-Paladin-Fighter-Rogue-Part-Deux</a>! I have a 5e concept for a front-line warrior character stressing battle field control with balanced AC and damage and I'd greatly appreciate any feedback. The character concept is leader/talker for the party and a do what it takes to protect people servant of Helm. Total Class Levels: Fighter 15, Paladin 4, Rogue 1In order of progression: Paladin 2, Fighter 4 (Battle Master), Rogue 1, Paladin 1 (Oath of Vengeance), Fighter 11, Paladin 1Key Features:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Human for extra feat (Sentinel) and swap first ability increase for feat (Dual Wielder)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fights with 1h/shield until 5th level, then switches to 1h/whip for reach.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Can use Sneak Attack and can trip opponents within 10’ with whip.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Can make an Opportunity Attack within 10’ or if the opponent uses Disengage or if they attack someone else, within 5’, can attack, turning their movement to zero if hits.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Supported by first level Paladin Spells and Combat Maneuvers, notably goading attack and trip attack early on.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Has decent AC and attack with potential for some good damage output.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Extra spell slots at higher level can fuel divine smite for more damage</li> </ul>Questions:<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Do you think the one level of rogue over Paladin is worth it for the 1d6 sneak attack? It gives up Hold Person and Misty Step paladin spells? Or would another level of fighter and thus an ability increase or feat make more sense?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Does the order I selected maneuvers make sense?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Is delaying the +str ability bump for savage attack a good idea?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Did I make some glaring error?</li> </ol>Summary 1-20Level 1 (Paladin 1)Stats: Str 16 (3), Dex 13 (1), Con 12(1), Int 8(-1), W 10 (0), Cha 14(2)AC: 18 (chain + shield)Prof: +2Skills Profs: Survival (Human), Perception (Paladin), Persuasion (Paladin), Athletics (Soldier), Intimidation (Soldier)Feat: SentinelSpecial: Lay Hands, Divine SenseATK/Damage: +5/1d8+3Level 2 (Paladin 2)AC: 19 (chain + shield+ Defense Fighting Style)Fighting Style: Defensive Paladin Spells Prepared: Bless, Compelled Duel, Shield of FaithSpell Slots: 2 first lvlSpecial: Divine Smite (2d8 radiant/spell slot + more damage at higher spell slots)Level 3 (Fighter 1)AC: 21 (Plate + shield + Defense Fighting Style)Fighting Style: Two-Weapon FightingSpell Slots: 2 1[SUP]st[/SUP] lvlSpecial: Second WindLevel 4 (Fighter 2)Spell Slots: 2 (assuming the min is 2 per the multiclass chart. The whole round-down and fractions of classes doesn't work here)Special: Action SurgeLevel 5 (Fighter 3)Prof: +3Martial Archetype: Battle Master 4x d8Maneuvers: Goading Attack, Trip Attack, Sweeping AttackTool Prof: SmithSpell Slots: 3 1[SUP]st[/SUP] lvlSpecial: Extra AttackATK/Damage: Two +6/1d8+3Level 6 (Fighter 4)AC: 20 (Plate + Defense fighting style + Dual Wielding)Feat in lieu of Ability Score: Dual WieldingSpell Slots: 3 1[SUP]st[/SUP] lvlATK/Damage: Two +6/1d8+3, One +6 1d4+3 with reachLevel 7 (Rogue 1)Tool Prof: Thieves ToolsSkill Prof: Deception (or possibly Investigation, if the party needed it)Spell Slots: 3 first lvlSpecial: Sneak attack +1d6, Thieves Cant, Expertise (Intimidation, Perception)ATK/Dam: Two +6/1d8+3, One +6 1d4+3 with reach +1d6 sneak attack if applicable Level 8 (Paladin 3)Sacred Oath: Oath of VengeanceSpecial: Divine Health, Abjure Enemy, and Vow of EnmityAdditional Prepared Spells: +Bane and Hunter’s MarkSpells Slots: 3 first lvl (Still three by the round down rule: Paladin level equals 3/2, thus 1, and fighter/rogue is 5/3, or 1, for a total of 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] level spell slots).Level 9 (Fighter 5)Prof: +4ATK/Dam: Two +7/1d8+3, One +7 1d4+3 with reach +1d6 sneak attack if applicableSpells Slots: 4 first level and 2 second levelLevel 10 (Fighter 6)Feat in lieu of Ability Increase: Savage AttackLevel 11 (Fighter 7)Maneuvers: Riposte, Precision Attack Special: Know Your Enemy, Bonus Superiority die (5x d8)Level 12 (Fighter 8)Ability Score Improvement: +2 strength, now 18 (4)Spells Slots: 4 first level and 3 second level ATK/Dam: Two +8/1d8+4, One +8 1d4+4 with reach +1d6 sneak attack if applicableLevel 13 (Fighter 9)Prof: +5Special: IndomitableATK/Dam: Two +9/1d8+4, One +9 1d4+4 with reach +1d6 sneak attack if applicableLevel 14 (Fighter 10)Fighting Style: Dueling (if being disarmed has been a problem) or Archery (if I’d had to do that much)Maneuvers: Disarming Attack, Maneuvering Attack Special: Improved Combat Superiority (superiority dice now d10 for 5x d10)Level 15 (Fighter 11)Special: Extra Attack (2)Spells Slots: 4 first level, 3 second level, and 2 third level ATK/Dam: Three +9/1d8+5, One +9 1d4+5 with reach +1d6 sneak attack if applicableLevel 16 (Fighter 12)Ability Score Improvement: +2 strength, now 20 (5)ATK/Dam: Two +8/1d8+5, One +8 1d4+5 with reach +1d6 sneak attack if applicableLevel 17 (Fighter 13)Prof: +6Special: Indomitable x2ATK/Dam: Three +10/1d8+5, One +10 1d4+5 with reach +1d6 sneak attack if applicableLevel 18 (Fighter 14)Ability Score Improvement: +2 charisma, now 16(3)Paladin prepared Spells: +Searing Smite or Thunderous SmiteSpells Slots: 4 first level, 3 second level, and 3 third level Level 19 (Fighter 15)Maneuvers: Pushing Attack, Distracting StrikeSpecial: Superiority Dice (6x d10), Relentless Level 20 (Paladin 4)Feat in lieu of Ability Increase: AlertPaladin Prepared Spells: +Searing Smite or Thunderous SmiteSpells Slots: 4 first level, 3 second level, 3 third level, and 1 fourth level</blockquote>

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