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Paladin Hospitaler vs Beholder Death Tyrant
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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 4731780" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>If you miss a paladin with a minor action, then you've got another minor action before you've touched your standard action or your action points. Which a solo has. And no, you shouldn't -auto hit-. That's not the point, is it? But if you hit often enough, with a power that has +3 to hit over the other powers -AND- targets a NAD, it'll do the damage you need it to do. Really.</p><p></p><p>These other things you mention are counterable with the beholder's -standard- action.</p><p></p><p>Fact is, a beholder is a controller, and should be using his control to... well... control the things that make life hard for him, like, say, a paladin who can heal everyone ad nauseum. How intellegent does a monster have to be to go 'That holy guy over there is healing this entire group of future slaves and saving them from my blasts of superiority. Maybe I should focus my fire on him. Maybe I should hold off on doing the things that heal his friends. Maybe I should -shut that guy down-.'</p><p></p><p>Hey, did you know the beholder can shut that aura off as a minor action?</p><p></p><p>All I hear is 'Ability too strong! Ability too strong!' and not enough 'But the monster countered with this....'</p><p></p><p>The broken part of the paladin-hospitaler combo, in this instance, from what I hear, is that the DM didn't bother to play the monster in response to it, and did not attempt to use the abilities available to shut the 'problem' player down. </p><p></p><p><strong>An eye tyrant has the tools to deal with this situation. Period. Use them.</strong> Complaining that the player is broken when it is clear that you did not use the tools -designed to handle situations like this- is like a rogue complaining about his poor damage output because -he never bothers to flank.-</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 4731780, member: 71571"] If you miss a paladin with a minor action, then you've got another minor action before you've touched your standard action or your action points. Which a solo has. And no, you shouldn't -auto hit-. That's not the point, is it? But if you hit often enough, with a power that has +3 to hit over the other powers -AND- targets a NAD, it'll do the damage you need it to do. Really. These other things you mention are counterable with the beholder's -standard- action. Fact is, a beholder is a controller, and should be using his control to... well... control the things that make life hard for him, like, say, a paladin who can heal everyone ad nauseum. How intellegent does a monster have to be to go 'That holy guy over there is healing this entire group of future slaves and saving them from my blasts of superiority. Maybe I should focus my fire on him. Maybe I should hold off on doing the things that heal his friends. Maybe I should -shut that guy down-.' Hey, did you know the beholder can shut that aura off as a minor action? All I hear is 'Ability too strong! Ability too strong!' and not enough 'But the monster countered with this....' The broken part of the paladin-hospitaler combo, in this instance, from what I hear, is that the DM didn't bother to play the monster in response to it, and did not attempt to use the abilities available to shut the 'problem' player down. [B]An eye tyrant has the tools to deal with this situation. Period. Use them.[/B] Complaining that the player is broken when it is clear that you did not use the tools -designed to handle situations like this- is like a rogue complaining about his poor damage output because -he never bothers to flank.- [/QUOTE]
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