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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ace" data-source="post: 2107709" data-attributes="member: 944">I am in agreement with you that the D&D monk isn't really a European archetype however there  are bits and pieces of esotericism that would let you create a Euro flavored monk without messing up the worlds flavor . That Tibetean King Fu site above has some with its Pnuema -- you could also use Vrill from the 19th century or just treat monks as Physical Adept type sorcerers And as for Discus Thrower and Marathon runner PRC's well there are feats like Run and Endurance and a Orcish Shotput could stand in for Discuss -- a 5 level PRC would be easy to  make Already done there is something like an Olympian Athelete PRC here <a href="http://p096.ezboard.com/fcommunity3efrm16.showMessage?topicID=76.topic" target="_blank">http://p096.ezboard.com/fcommunity3efrm16.showMessage?topicID=76.topic</a>and here <a href="http://boards.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=56826" target="_blank">http://boards.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=56826</a>there is an athelete core class in X Crawl and and Athelete background in D20 Modern --Its a viable archetype and As it happens we may be playing a pseudo greek game later this year so I read up  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  I may play an athelete turned tomb raider in fact Twisting the monk just a bit -- especially renaming it something like the Pankrase Master (or whatever) will fix 99% of the assumption issues with the class I have seen this work in play without and problems. In fact we had a  Puritan Warrior Nun in a Pyrate game I played in without incident, we just ignored a bit of baggage and assumed it was some wierd ascetic religious thing and moved on   Monks work fine in any campaign that is designed for flexibility Some games are not -- if that is the case just set up the available classes and PRC's first and while Merlins Fist "monks" could be cool you many not want that in your Arthurian D20 game -- use what you like and have fun</blockquote>

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