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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mad Mac" data-source="post: 2107879" data-attributes="member: 27873">And by the same token, Fusangnite, why are you so concerned with what other people do with monks in their games? Seriously, relax. I can see the monk as an outsider, and I can see tweaking them to pseudo-greek athletes/divine hermits/whatever. It's no crime against nature.  Furthermore, you keep ignoring people that point out that pretty much no one willingly cast off armor or weapons in eastern mythology, either. The Shaolin Monks might have been infamous for the unarmed fighting techniques, but they went into battle with arms and armor like everyone else. At the same time, it's expected that a skilled fighter is deadly in bare-handed combat even when he doesn't have a weapon on hand...you know, like Beowulf or Hercules. I'm not seeing this great chasm you suggest. The Monk excells in hand-to-hand combat because that's the niche it is built around. No point in having such a class if it was better off using weapons all the time, despite that being closer to any mythology.Edit: Just to clarify on the weapons and eastern mythology bit...  The fact is, every serious martial art out there teaches weapons, and even gave them higher priority than they do today. The archtype of the unarmed fighter exists for the same reason why Katana fighting 101 isn't a high priority survival skill these days--you can't count on always count on having such a weapon on hand, or even legally being able to use or carry it. The "humble, wandering monk" isn't going to draw attention to himself by strutting around with a broadsword. But he'll be trained in it's use, and given the oppourtnity, fight with one.</blockquote>

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