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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 2109195" data-attributes="member: 114">Although it is much later than medieval, 18th Centurn (?) Savate (french kick boxing) and the similar Jeu Marsailles could both be considered genuine occidental martial arts. The history of them is apparently difficult to determine (some consider the latter to have been picked up by sailors who had been trading in the far east and been exposed to oriental martial arts, for instance the former is apparently considered to have developed from basic streetfighting).Could be used as an interesting basis for westernised martial arts (although as Fusangite and others have said, the PHB monk comes will a whole range of mystical baggage - oops, I mean class features - which is difficult to fit into that origin!)Cheers</blockquote>