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<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 846432" data-attributes="member: 111">Well, I don't see how it's &quot;obvious&quot; that the bonus hit die are not magical beast hit die.1.&nbsp; They are magical beasts, not animals.2.&nbsp; They do get improved saves and attacks rolls based on the improved hit die - in fact, we are &quot;remined&quot; that they do in the rules, implying that it's obvious that would do get those benefits of the bonus hit die.Now I think that implies that they get skills and feats as a magical beast as well.&nbsp; You don't.Fine.&nbsp; Both positions can be well-defended form the rules are written.&nbsp; WHat was inteded?&nbsp; I don't know.&nbsp; It looks to me like they were intended to be treated as magical beasts in all repsects, but you disgaree, of course.Fine.&nbsp; Either way follows the rules as written.Of course, you get very few skill points and only a couple of feats anyway, so it's really not a big deal anyway.&nbsp; It should only help the mount survive,&nbsp; which is a significant challenge anyway.Perhaps this will be made clearer in 3.5e, perhaps not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 846432, member: 111"] Well, I don't see how it's "obvious" that the bonus hit die are [i]not[/i] magical beast hit die. 1. They are magical beasts, not animals. 2. They [i]do[/i] get improved saves and attacks rolls based on the improved hit die - in fact, we are "remined" that they do in the rules, implying that it's obvious that would do get those benefits of the bonus hit die. Now I think that implies that they get skills and feats as a magical beast as well. You don't. Fine. Both positions can be well-defended form the rules are written. WHat was inteded? I don't know. It looks to me like they were intended to be treated as magical beasts in all repsects, but you disgaree, of course. Fine. Either way follows the rules as written. Of course, you get very few skill points and only a couple of feats anyway, so it's really not a big deal anyway. It should only help the mount survive, which is a significant challenge anyway. Perhaps this will be made clearer in 3.5e, perhaps not. [/QUOTE]

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