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<blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 7821827" data-attributes="member: 6677017">Assuming a traditional paladin oath that requires defending others courageously, including the possibility of sacrificing your life...Scenario 2: Seems fine to me.Scenario 3: Probably not. If he had a very good reason to believe Bloggins wouldn't be able to act in time, and he didn't have an alternative option (such as tackling Bloggins instead of the grenade), he might question himself afterwards, but assuming normal grenade timing, with a split second choice like that I don't think a typical paladin is guilty of a major transgression. Now, if he did have a very good reason to believe Bloggins wouldn't be able to act in time (like we have a paladin with a really high Intelligence who has been previously presented as quick thinking), and there was no other way he could think of to save Bloggins, then we're in territory where he's likely violated his oath.Scenario 4: Sure.I'm fine with that approach. There's a difference between 1st degree murder and failure to be sufficiently courageous, even if both might violate a particular oath, and they won't necessarily lead to the same consequences. I went into a lengthy commentary on the nature of &quot;willing&quot; because it was the topic of the thread, not because I think nuances of the situation need be ignored.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sword of Spirit, post: 7821827, member: 6677017"] Assuming a traditional paladin oath that requires defending others courageously, including the possibility of sacrificing your life... Scenario 2: Seems fine to me. Scenario 3: Probably not. If he had a very good reason to believe Bloggins wouldn't be able to act in time, and he didn't have an alternative option (such as tackling Bloggins instead of the grenade), he might question himself afterwards, but assuming normal grenade timing, with a split second choice like that I don't think a typical paladin is guilty of a major transgression. Now, if he did have a very good reason to believe Bloggins wouldn't be able to act in time (like we have a paladin with a really high Intelligence who has been previously presented as quick thinking), and there was no other way he could think of to save Bloggins, then we're in territory where he's likely violated his oath. Scenario 4: Sure. I'm fine with that approach. There's a difference between 1st degree murder and failure to be sufficiently courageous, even if both might violate a particular oath, and they won't necessarily lead to the same consequences. I went into a lengthy commentary on the nature of "willing" because it was the topic of the thread, not because I think nuances of the situation need be ignored. [/QUOTE]

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