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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7822068" data-attributes="member: 6801845">The gods don't control the world.&nbsp; A paladin needs to accept that they can't win every battle, but hopefully they can win the war.I can imagine a world where the rogue was a kleptomaniac that refused to drop the treasure chest.&nbsp; Even after they set off an alarm and knew that the only chance of escape was to drop the chest and run.&nbsp; It did not end well for the rogue.If you want to have kiddie cartoon villains where everyone always has a perfect option, go for it.I don't set up no-win or choose between two evils scenarios.&nbsp; That doesn't mean they can't happen under the right circumstances because I run a very dynamic campaign.It seems like you want paladins to be perfect and then blame the DM if they hold them to an impossible standard without providing the &quot;perfect&quot; option every time.I would no more do that than purposely set up a scenario where you have to commit evil acts to succeed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7822068, member: 6801845"] The gods don't control the world. A paladin needs to accept that they can't win every battle, but hopefully they can win the war. I can imagine a world where the rogue was a kleptomaniac that refused to drop the treasure chest. Even after they set off an alarm and knew that the only chance of escape was to drop the chest and run. It did not end well for the rogue. If you want to have kiddie cartoon villains where everyone always has a perfect option, go for it. I don't set up no-win or choose between two evils scenarios. That doesn't mean they can't happen under the right circumstances because I run a very dynamic campaign. It seems like you want paladins to be perfect and then blame the DM if they hold them to an impossible standard without providing the "perfect" option every time. I would no more do that than purposely set up a scenario where you have to commit evil acts to succeed. [/QUOTE]

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