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<blockquote data-quote="Nazhkandrias" data-source="post: 3545306" data-attributes="member: 50521"><p>Oh, I noticed that, but with a Half-Orc Paladin ballbuster build like that, I assumed that the Charisma represented forceful personality and imposing presence more than social graces and charming demeanor. Sort of like the difference between using Diplomacy and Intimidate to get what you want... they both work! <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious :]" data-shortname=":]" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, keep in mind that it's a rough draft. When I say "adopted", I really just mean he's like a vassal being given room and board. And perhaps "lord of a small region" is a better term than "noble". I'm still turning it over in my head, but I'm thinking something along the lines of him helping out the lord first (perhaps the slavemaster wants to raid the lord's castle, and my character escapes his chains to join the fight with the lord's soldiers). This moves from the lord feeling respect for the young boy's bravery to more of a mentor-ish relationship. He receives a soldier's training from one of the lord's knights, then hears the call to become a Paladin. A VERY rough draft, but it seems like a decent story for a Paladin. Hey, at least I didn't put in something about him cradling the head of his mentor as he lays dying in his arms! *Cough* Reference to almost any adventure movie ever made *Cough*</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's about right, but I wasn't really planning on going full tank or full cannon - a mix of the two. Capability to dish out AND take respectable amounts of damage (not so much with Con as with heavy armor and shield, though). That, along with taking advantage of all of the cool Cha-based Paladin abilities out there (so yes, healer and evil-smiter). As for roleplaying, yes, that's PRECISELY what I was looking for! But not the typical, stuffy ol' grump of a Paladin - noticably more free-spirited (kind of implied with the Paladin of Freedom, I guess).</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'll be honest, I don't like half-elves. I roleplay a lot, but the powerplayer side of me balks at the sub-par racials. Human was what I had in mind, what with the laid-back attitude and all. In addition, remember that Diplomacy isn't in-class for a Paladin of Freedom - Bluff replaces it. I'll probably focus more on Bluff, letting my high Cha handle minor Diplomacy from time to time.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think it does synergize excellently, and I am quite familiar with the Knight class (combine it with Dwarven Defender, and you're damn near indestructable), but the alignment requirement is that you have to be Lawful. Paladins of Freedom are Chaotic, and I have to lean on the side of roleplaying here. I think Lawful Good Paladins can be awfully stuffy, and I doubt that I'd have fun playing one.</p><p></p><p>And the wind motif was more of just an armor, shield, and weapon design scheme than anything else. His sword and armor will be silver and swept back, he has a breezy attitude (no pun intended), and he'll probably use a flying mount. That's about as far as it goes.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I know, but don't forget the Book of Exalted Deeds and Complete Champion! Two other excellent Paladin books.</p><p></p><p>So, any further ideas? I have a much more well-formed idea about what I want to do with this character, but I'd love to hear some more suggestions. I'm especially interested in PrCs that synergize well (and that I can freely multiclass with) Paladin. And if it's an awesome PrC that doesn't allow multiclassing with Paladin, I'll just take Knight Training (Eberron Campaign book), which allows multiclassing ONE class with Paladin. Of course, if my DM is lenient, they'll follow my rules about PrCs and multiclassing... I don't count PrCs towards multiclassing penalites or restrictions as long as it follows the theme of the character (A Druid / Ranger taking Horizon Walker is fine, a Rogue taking Assassin is fine, a Paladin becoming a Blackguard is fine, a Monk becoming a Duelist... not so much). Makes sense, since multiclassing penalties represent the difficulty of keeping two entirely different combat styles in balance at once, and a Cleric becoming a Hierophant isn't far off the mark.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nazhkandrias, post: 3545306, member: 50521"] Oh, I noticed that, but with a Half-Orc Paladin ballbuster build like that, I assumed that the Charisma represented forceful personality and imposing presence more than social graces and charming demeanor. Sort of like the difference between using Diplomacy and Intimidate to get what you want... they both work! :] Well, keep in mind that it's a rough draft. When I say "adopted", I really just mean he's like a vassal being given room and board. And perhaps "lord of a small region" is a better term than "noble". I'm still turning it over in my head, but I'm thinking something along the lines of him helping out the lord first (perhaps the slavemaster wants to raid the lord's castle, and my character escapes his chains to join the fight with the lord's soldiers). This moves from the lord feeling respect for the young boy's bravery to more of a mentor-ish relationship. He receives a soldier's training from one of the lord's knights, then hears the call to become a Paladin. A VERY rough draft, but it seems like a decent story for a Paladin. Hey, at least I didn't put in something about him cradling the head of his mentor as he lays dying in his arms! *Cough* Reference to almost any adventure movie ever made *Cough* That's about right, but I wasn't really planning on going full tank or full cannon - a mix of the two. Capability to dish out AND take respectable amounts of damage (not so much with Con as with heavy armor and shield, though). That, along with taking advantage of all of the cool Cha-based Paladin abilities out there (so yes, healer and evil-smiter). As for roleplaying, yes, that's PRECISELY what I was looking for! But not the typical, stuffy ol' grump of a Paladin - noticably more free-spirited (kind of implied with the Paladin of Freedom, I guess). I'll be honest, I don't like half-elves. I roleplay a lot, but the powerplayer side of me balks at the sub-par racials. Human was what I had in mind, what with the laid-back attitude and all. In addition, remember that Diplomacy isn't in-class for a Paladin of Freedom - Bluff replaces it. I'll probably focus more on Bluff, letting my high Cha handle minor Diplomacy from time to time. I think it does synergize excellently, and I am quite familiar with the Knight class (combine it with Dwarven Defender, and you're damn near indestructable), but the alignment requirement is that you have to be Lawful. Paladins of Freedom are Chaotic, and I have to lean on the side of roleplaying here. I think Lawful Good Paladins can be awfully stuffy, and I doubt that I'd have fun playing one. And the wind motif was more of just an armor, shield, and weapon design scheme than anything else. His sword and armor will be silver and swept back, he has a breezy attitude (no pun intended), and he'll probably use a flying mount. That's about as far as it goes. I know, but don't forget the Book of Exalted Deeds and Complete Champion! Two other excellent Paladin books. So, any further ideas? I have a much more well-formed idea about what I want to do with this character, but I'd love to hear some more suggestions. I'm especially interested in PrCs that synergize well (and that I can freely multiclass with) Paladin. And if it's an awesome PrC that doesn't allow multiclassing with Paladin, I'll just take Knight Training (Eberron Campaign book), which allows multiclassing ONE class with Paladin. Of course, if my DM is lenient, they'll follow my rules about PrCs and multiclassing... I don't count PrCs towards multiclassing penalites or restrictions as long as it follows the theme of the character (A Druid / Ranger taking Horizon Walker is fine, a Rogue taking Assassin is fine, a Paladin becoming a Blackguard is fine, a Monk becoming a Duelist... not so much). Makes sense, since multiclassing penalties represent the difficulty of keeping two entirely different combat styles in balance at once, and a Cleric becoming a Hierophant isn't far off the mark. [/QUOTE]
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