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<blockquote data-quote="Kieperr" data-source="post: 2909748" data-attributes="member: 40226"><p>But paladins are held to the highest standards of Good at all times and are punished if they aren’t as good as they possibly can be.</p><p>PHB pg 44:</p><p>“Code of Conduct: A paladin must be of lawful good alignment and <strong>loses all class abilities if she ever willingly commits an evil act.</strong>”</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ever heard of Dimensional Shackles (DMG pg 255)? My paladin accepts the surrender of such creatures and such creatures were lawfully tried for their crimes. Not all were found guilty (the law works that way sometimes), but those that were suffered the punishment dictated by the law. For most that was a long drop on a short rope. Lawful Good does not mean stupid. In my world, you may try this escape once. You wouldn't a second time. And I could do it without violating my code of conduct.</p><p></p><p>In real life the line between good and evil can be very hard to differentiate at times. In DnD it shouldn’t be that hard. If it is then you may be allowing to much real life into your game. Everyone seems to be complaining that the alignments are not well defined and that is what leads to player/DM misunderstandings, such as the one that started this thread. Well, now you have a book that defines Good for you. The BoED is written to help players understand how the good alignment works within the game, Chapter 1. The book is for all good characters, not just exalted characters. The exalted rules, which are only part of the book, simply allow a good character to expand his capabilities in the same manner the Complete series of books allow the various classes to expand on their capabilities. I guess that means you can look at the BoED as the “Complete Good” book and the BoVD as the “Complete Evil” book. If you want to use them, do so. If not, then don't. They are tools to help you. If you don't want the help, so be it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kieperr, post: 2909748, member: 40226"] But paladins are held to the highest standards of Good at all times and are punished if they aren’t as good as they possibly can be. PHB pg 44: “Code of Conduct: A paladin must be of lawful good alignment and [B]loses all class abilities if she ever willingly commits an evil act.[/B]” Ever heard of Dimensional Shackles (DMG pg 255)? My paladin accepts the surrender of such creatures and such creatures were lawfully tried for their crimes. Not all were found guilty (the law works that way sometimes), but those that were suffered the punishment dictated by the law. For most that was a long drop on a short rope. Lawful Good does not mean stupid. In my world, you may try this escape once. You wouldn't a second time. And I could do it without violating my code of conduct. In real life the line between good and evil can be very hard to differentiate at times. In DnD it shouldn’t be that hard. If it is then you may be allowing to much real life into your game. Everyone seems to be complaining that the alignments are not well defined and that is what leads to player/DM misunderstandings, such as the one that started this thread. Well, now you have a book that defines Good for you. The BoED is written to help players understand how the good alignment works within the game, Chapter 1. The book is for all good characters, not just exalted characters. The exalted rules, which are only part of the book, simply allow a good character to expand his capabilities in the same manner the Complete series of books allow the various classes to expand on their capabilities. I guess that means you can look at the BoED as the “Complete Good” book and the BoVD as the “Complete Evil” book. If you want to use them, do so. If not, then don't. They are tools to help you. If you don't want the help, so be it. [/QUOTE]
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