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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lela" data-source="post: 724537" data-attributes="member: 1216">Lion is CR 3 and large.  That could work.If you wanted to go weaker you could use a Leopard (CR 2, meduim size=fixable) and call it a Lion.  There's also the Panther (Leopard or Lion stats).  If he wanted a Tiger (CR 4, Large) you could change those to Lion.Another option is to use the Leopard stats for the lion, make it Large (penalties apply), make it look celestial, and give it the celestial template version of Smite Evil (only).  That would give it a Celestial Lion feel while maintaining game balance.  You might not even let it talk (empathic link would of course work).On the Holy Avenger, I would go with the idea that they, uh, won't be getting one.  Not unless the campaign calls for it or they undertake a long (and deadly) quest for their church.  These things don't grow on trees here.  Vorpel is the same way IMC.Hope that helped,</blockquote>