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Message: <blockquote data-quote="painandgreed" data-source="post: 2723643" data-attributes="member: 24969"><p>I think it would be possible to trick a paladin into commiting an action that would strip him of his powers, but probably not in the example given. Agreed that mistakenly attacking an illusion that is covering somebody would be a very regretable event but once again the true crime is upon the illusionist.  However, if there was something with a longer setup and less magic, it might be possible to trick a paladin. Say he was guarding a caravan along with a good ranger. It becomes evident that there is an evil priest hiding in the caravan. The paladin finds some clues that the ranger is the evil priest and then stumbles upon part of the caravan with a lone survivor telling him that it was the ranger and warnign the paladin not to let the ranger say a word because he quicken spells, charms, Word of Chaos or something of that nature. The paladin goes out and finds the ranger, and as the ranger greets the paladin unaware that anything is wrong the paladin strikes him down which is wrong because the survivor was the evil priest and lied to the paladin and framed the ranger with the clues. Killing an innocent as such would be a violation of code as although paladins are given the right to smite, they are held to the standard of being right. He attacked and killed the ranger without any magical coersion during the encounter and should have confirmed his suspitions first. I don't think the attack would be sufficient to need atonement, but the killing would.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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