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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 2729846" data-attributes="member: 707">This comment seems to argue directly against your assertion that paladins are only human.I agree with you that paladins are human, and imperfect.&nbsp; But I disagree that they're just common mortals trying to make a difference.&nbsp; Paladins are souls that were created stronger and more pure than others.&nbsp; The idea that a paladin should serve as a &quot;Repentant Sinner&quot; is anathema to what the paladin archtype is to me.&nbsp; Paladins aren't sinners.&nbsp; They may make mistakes, they may even be overcome with emotions under certain circumstances, but that does not make them mundane.This is where I disagree.&nbsp; The paladin is something in between.&nbsp; He's not Adam, a common mortal man.&nbsp; His soul is closer to his god than Adam's, his arm serves as the instrument of that god's will.&nbsp; His heart is the bastion of god's faith.Royalty means nothing in the context of a paladin, holiness does.&nbsp; Galahad was the only Grail Knight good enough and holy enough to find the Grail.&nbsp; Arthur was not.&nbsp; That Arthur had &quot;more magical juju&quot; is beside the point.Two points: firstly, I am not suggesting a Flawless Icon trope as the paladin archtype.&nbsp; I'm suggesting a Paragon of Virtue.&nbsp; Secondly, the Repentant Sinner may be all that you claim (I might dispute it, but it doesn't serve a purpose in the context of this thread,) but that does not make it a paladin.Again, you seem to suggest that depth can only be found with a paladin who falls again and again.&nbsp; I suppose this is a subjective point, so I cannot really gainsay it, save to say that I have not found this to be the case in my own experiences.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 2729846, member: 707"] This comment seems to argue directly against your assertion that paladins are only human. I agree with you that paladins [i]are[/i] human, and imperfect. But I disagree that they're just common mortals trying to make a difference. Paladins are souls that were created stronger and more pure than others. The idea that a paladin should serve as a "Repentant Sinner" is anathema to what the paladin archtype is to me. Paladins aren't sinners. They may make mistakes, they may even be overcome with emotions under certain circumstances, but that does not make them mundane.This is where I disagree. The paladin is something in between. He's [i]not[/i] Adam, a common mortal man. His soul is closer to his god than Adam's, his arm serves as the instrument of that god's will. His heart is the bastion of god's faith.Royalty means nothing in the context of a paladin, holiness does. Galahad was the only Grail Knight good enough and holy enough to find the Grail. Arthur was not. That Arthur had "more magical juju" is beside the point.Two points: firstly, I am not suggesting a Flawless Icon trope as the paladin archtype. I'm suggesting a Paragon of Virtue. Secondly, the Repentant Sinner may be all that you claim (I might dispute it, but it doesn't serve a purpose in the context of this thread,) but that does not make it a paladin.Again, you seem to suggest that depth can only be found with a paladin who falls again and again. I suppose this is a subjective point, so I cannot really gainsay it, save to say that I have not found this to be the case in my own experiences. [/QUOTE]

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