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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Azul" data-source="post: 1092557" data-attributes="member: 11779">Actually, Lay on Hands is far more devastating against strong undead than Turning Undead is, especially if you Smite Evil while Laying on Hands.Lay on Hands rapidly snowballs into a once/day undead obliterating ability since it can be used as a touch attack against undead (using the positive energy to damage the undead).  Unlike spellcasting, this does not provoke an attack of opportunity.  If the paladin has a great Cha (pretty common) then lay on hands turns into a very nice ability.So, say a 10th level paladin with a 20 Cha (not especially unlikely if he has an Cha boosting item or an Eagle's Splendor spell on him)... that's 50 hp of lay on hands per day.  Use that as a touch attack, Smite evil while at it (for a +5 attack bonus and a +10 damage bonus).  That's a 60 damage touch attack at +5 attack (virtually a guarenteed hit for any paladin versus any undead within a reasonable CR range)... and it's positive energy damage, which pretty much bypasses DR and energy resistance.  Given that undead have no Con bonuses (and thus has lousy hp), that will go a long way towards wiping out any big undead baddie (like a lich, vampire or such).In my previous undead-themed campaign, the party paladin used to use lay on hands offensively fairly often.  He'd open with turning to scatter the undead mooks and then lay on hands against the big baddie.</blockquote>