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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Darklone" data-source="post: 1100600" data-attributes="member: 1372">I did. But last time someone came up with these comparisons, they considered 3 prep rounds for the level 1 cleric <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Yeah, sure. He's so sneaky, you know <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I don't know many long running buffs anymore... And I do not allow Persistent Spell as written, that may of course be a reason why I see usually the paladin as winner.As for the round of preparation... No problem. The paladin might activate some boots of haste thing or his holy sword spell or shoot some arrows into the cleric. All of these don't really help the cleric to win the battleThe Divine feat chains: Last time we considered these things, we agreed that a ftr/clr likely a higher Wis and the paladin a higher Cha. Strength and Con might easily be similar. If that's the case, then a paladin will usually benefit more. Other feats: Sure, the ftr/clr will be ahead... will it help him against the typical one shot paladin built?Useless Smite: I don't think we will see a paladin fighting clerics who are immune to his smite.Mount: Well... As said above, it's a class ability. Probably one with Improved Evasion. Final statement: I do think that a ftr/clr build can be interesting to play and is more versatile. But in a direct confrontation, a paladin will probably win (against an evil alignment, I don't really consider other cases).</blockquote>

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