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Paladin will slice the cleric, or will the cleric bash the paladin?
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<blockquote data-quote="LokiDR" data-source="post: 913458" data-attributes="member: 6239"><p>Perhaps, but the difference in attack will become more pronounced. What this does demonstrate is that the iconic paladin is better at combat than the iconic cleric. This makes sense given the concepts of the different classes.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Jozan casting Bull's Strength in combat means taking more damage and gaining 3 points of strenght. This increases his damage to 1d8+3 hitting 30%, 2.25 damage. That can't compete with Alhandra's 3.375. With bless, Jozan climbs to 2.975 per strike. In a slugfest, Jozan goes down first, and Doom doesn't work on Alhandra. Also working in Alhandra's favor are criticals (which I didn't figure in) and the attacks of the mount possibly with a flanking bonus to attack. </p><p></p><p>Jozan has 5 zeroth, 3 first, 1 second, 2 third level spells he can spontaniously cure with, plus an Aid spell. That is 12d8+38. +3d8+6 if he doesn't cast the searing light for damage. Alhandra has 50d8+50. Jozan, even buffed, can't take enough damage away to make up that difference.</p><p></p><p>Jozan's equipment: +1 full plate, +1 lg wood shield, +1 heavy mace, masterwork crossbow, 10 +1 bolts, cloak of resist +1, scrolls: daylight, invisiblity purge, lesser restoration, protection from elements, silence. Past that is basic gear (flint and steel, ect).</p><p></p><p>At a glance, Jozan wins at 10th level with lesser planar ally, flame strike, and healing. Alhandra has ride-by attack, but it doesn't look like that is enough.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LokiDR, post: 913458, member: 6239"] Perhaps, but the difference in attack will become more pronounced. What this does demonstrate is that the iconic paladin is better at combat than the iconic cleric. This makes sense given the concepts of the different classes. Jozan casting Bull's Strength in combat means taking more damage and gaining 3 points of strenght. This increases his damage to 1d8+3 hitting 30%, 2.25 damage. That can't compete with Alhandra's 3.375. With bless, Jozan climbs to 2.975 per strike. In a slugfest, Jozan goes down first, and Doom doesn't work on Alhandra. Also working in Alhandra's favor are criticals (which I didn't figure in) and the attacks of the mount possibly with a flanking bonus to attack. Jozan has 5 zeroth, 3 first, 1 second, 2 third level spells he can spontaniously cure with, plus an Aid spell. That is 12d8+38. +3d8+6 if he doesn't cast the searing light for damage. Alhandra has 50d8+50. Jozan, even buffed, can't take enough damage away to make up that difference. Jozan's equipment: +1 full plate, +1 lg wood shield, +1 heavy mace, masterwork crossbow, 10 +1 bolts, cloak of resist +1, scrolls: daylight, invisiblity purge, lesser restoration, protection from elements, silence. Past that is basic gear (flint and steel, ect). At a glance, Jozan wins at 10th level with lesser planar ally, flame strike, and healing. Alhandra has ride-by attack, but it doesn't look like that is enough. [/QUOTE]
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