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<blockquote data-quote="Oracular Vision" data-source="post: 66673" data-attributes="member: 2265">So, you were wrong and can't admit it? Tough cookies. Anyone can make mistakes, and you did. I always read the manual when questions come up, something you didn't do this time, so the comment is just. Are you saying that speaking without knowing is not your fault? Please.The part about associates is true enough [not what we were talking about], but as long as you are following your code and are acting LG, you can still be a Paladin of Vecna. Associates is a vague term at best. Is an associate a member of your party? A guy who pays you? It could mean anything, I don't see it as very useful in figuring out exactly what is and isn't permitted. Can a paladin be in a party with an evil member? I know WotC doesn't want you to do that, but this seems to be a definite association, so I would say no. What if someone has a cursed item making them evil, and it's not their fault? That's more difficult. I'd have to say yes he could. A judgement call.I don't think it is a good idea to be one, it would be hard if not impossible to play, but there is no reason you couldn't be one, unless you take a hard line on the limits of association, which would mean you couldn't work directly with any of them, a serious limitation but not a prohibition.Admit you were wrong, it is good for the soul! Maybe Vecna will take you in.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oracular Vision, post: 66673, member: 2265"] So, you were wrong and can't admit it? Tough cookies. Anyone can make mistakes, and you did. I always read the manual when questions come up, something you didn't do this time, so the comment is just. Are you saying that speaking without knowing is not your fault? Please. The part about associates is true enough [not what we were talking about], but as long as you are following your code and are acting LG, you can still be a Paladin of Vecna. Associates is a vague term at best. Is an associate a member of your party? A guy who pays you? It could mean anything, I don't see it as very useful in figuring out exactly what is and isn't permitted. Can a paladin be in a party with an evil member? I know WotC doesn't want you to do that, but this seems to be a definite association, so I would say no. What if someone has a cursed item making them evil, and it's not their fault? That's more difficult. I'd have to say yes he could. A judgement call. I don't think it is a good idea to be one, it would be hard if not impossible to play, but there is no reason you couldn't be one, unless you take a hard line on the limits of association, which would mean you couldn't work directly with any of them, a serious limitation but not a prohibition. Admit you were wrong, it is good for the soul! Maybe Vecna will take you in. ;) [/QUOTE]

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