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<blockquote data-quote="ProfessorCirno" data-source="post: 4232374" data-attributes="member: 65637"><p>If I ever allowed paladins to be the hybrid cleric/fighter, they'd be given a different name. It IS a sticking point with me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, I know, but that wasn't my emphasis. My emphasis wasn't on "straightjacket" it was on "character concept."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can't really see why a CN person or unaligned god would need a champion. A CN person wouldn't give two craps about needing to "champion" their cause, and an unaligned god just sounds lazy ;p</p><p></p><p>Joke that will surely be misinterpreted aside, I have no issues with other gods getting champions. I have no problems with a character being the paragon of CN (though I'm not too clear on how that would work, personally). But those people wouldn't be paladins.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And why not? Don't just say "LOL NO," tell me why.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The paladin codes throughout the various editions and, in fact, throughout different settings, games, and genres entirely, have all been very similar. This is for a good reason.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, that's you <em>redesigning the class</em>.</p><p></p><p>Classes are supposed to have restrictions. That is, in fact, the <em>entire purpose of having a class based system</em>. Paladins are Lawful Good, rogues have thievery-esque skills, warriors are good with weapons.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That has absolutely nothing to do with this. Nothing at <em>all</em>. Is it even possible to have a thread about anything 4e related and not get something that's completely UNrelated about 3e mentioned?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And this is a problem...? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>...Because they're entirely tied to having a deity? I'm not sure what your point here is. Are you saying "You can just HOMEBREW paladins differently!" Well, yes, I can, but if I homebrew everything about the system, why use it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ProfessorCirno, post: 4232374, member: 65637"] If I ever allowed paladins to be the hybrid cleric/fighter, they'd be given a different name. It IS a sticking point with me. Yes, I know, but that wasn't my emphasis. My emphasis wasn't on "straightjacket" it was on "character concept." I can't really see why a CN person or unaligned god would need a champion. A CN person wouldn't give two craps about needing to "champion" their cause, and an unaligned god just sounds lazy ;p Joke that will surely be misinterpreted aside, I have no issues with other gods getting champions. I have no problems with a character being the paragon of CN (though I'm not too clear on how that would work, personally). But those people wouldn't be paladins. And why not? Don't just say "LOL NO," tell me why. The paladin codes throughout the various editions and, in fact, throughout different settings, games, and genres entirely, have all been very similar. This is for a good reason. No, that's you [i]redesigning the class[/i]. Classes are supposed to have restrictions. That is, in fact, the [i]entire purpose of having a class based system[/i]. Paladins are Lawful Good, rogues have thievery-esque skills, warriors are good with weapons. That has absolutely nothing to do with this. Nothing at [i]all[/i]. Is it even possible to have a thread about anything 4e related and not get something that's completely UNrelated about 3e mentioned? And this is a problem...? ;) ...Because they're entirely tied to having a deity? I'm not sure what your point here is. Are you saying "You can just HOMEBREW paladins differently!" Well, yes, I can, but if I homebrew everything about the system, why use it? [/QUOTE]
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