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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sundragon2012" data-source="post: 2552707" data-attributes="member: 7624">I think that in Eberron the model of integration and assimilation works because the assumptions are very different, not just regarding alignment but regarding the cultures themselves. In the 2e Al-Qadim setting orcs, goblins and ogres lived in cities as well and were not inherently anything. Their cultures made them evil and no inherent wickedness. In worlds modeled after Tolkien or more traditional high fantasy setting combined with D&D's alignment system I can see a real disconnect between what would happen in the aftermath of a terrible conflict between men/dwarves/elves and orcs/goblins/hobgoblins and anything that has ever been seen in fantasy literature or any such tales.For example, the men of Gondor and Rohan may be noble and good but does anyone have any illusions about them taking in orc foster children after the fall of Sauron if they were to encounter any? If anything they would ride right by a wandering orcish youngling and leave the creature for the wolves. The only thing stopping folk like these from killing this wandering orc orphan would not be thoughts of "good guys don't do that" but that it is beneath their personal code of conduct/honor to lower themselves to kill any child. Warriors don't lower themselves to such things and whatnot but not a sense of sentimenatlism about the innocence of orcish childhood and such profoundly modern sensibilities.In regards to paladins or knightly types I believe it would be their code that prevents them from killing non-combatants and not merely the concerns of alignment.I think in most High Fantasy settings, the ophaned humanoids would be left to die without a second thought. I couldn't imagine for a minute the dwarves of FR or the elves of Middle Earth concerning themselves with fostering the young of such creatures.In alternate settings like Eberron, such things are both acceptable and believable.Chris</blockquote>

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