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Paladins and Good Aligned Folk In War - Are Orc Children Slain?
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<blockquote data-quote="Beowolf" data-source="post: 2554232" data-attributes="member: 18770"><p>This is an intriging thread and everyone has posted some excellent thoughts and views. now i would like to humbly contribute</p><p></p><p>sundragons has mad many points that killing the offspring is the only way to prevent the death of one's own people, and has shown several settings where such a thing is the norm.</p><p>one way we could see thoses actions is that even the elves , dwarves ect see it as evil and wrong but do it because of the above idea. they dont like it and probably regret it or feel guilty but they still would probably do it simply because of the possible consequences. in short -its not a good thing but something that has to be done </p><p>if the situation was reversed and the orcs won we would see their killing of the young as an evil act so why should it be not the same if the good guys do it. for that matter what if the enemy wasnt some savage orc tribes but an evil human empire that raises its children to be brutal killers. would the good guys kill a child of a thourghly evil civilisation because when that child grows up he will kill more people form the good guys country?</p><p>would dwarves abvocate slaughtering duegar helpless </p><p>would elves seek to kill drow kids .... both are inherently evil culturly and religiously</p><p></p><p>in regards to the idea of an intrinsicly evil culture and religion equals/ natual instincts = evil</p><p>it was said that we would have no problems with killing roaches and that lions will continue to consume meat. both are absolutely true but the differece between these examples and the orcs in question is that both the roach amd lion are not self-aware they have no choice in their actions or thoughts, they only follow instinct . the orcs on the other hand are sentient and thus have freedom of choice and as such can become good given the proper inviroment.</p><p>though it is reasonable to assume that orc children would be more likely to grow up evil simply because of biological proneness to anger or violence </p><p></p><p></p><p>just a few thoughts .. excuse the spelling and grammar</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beowolf, post: 2554232, member: 18770"] This is an intriging thread and everyone has posted some excellent thoughts and views. now i would like to humbly contribute sundragons has mad many points that killing the offspring is the only way to prevent the death of one's own people, and has shown several settings where such a thing is the norm. one way we could see thoses actions is that even the elves , dwarves ect see it as evil and wrong but do it because of the above idea. they dont like it and probably regret it or feel guilty but they still would probably do it simply because of the possible consequences. in short -its not a good thing but something that has to be done if the situation was reversed and the orcs won we would see their killing of the young as an evil act so why should it be not the same if the good guys do it. for that matter what if the enemy wasnt some savage orc tribes but an evil human empire that raises its children to be brutal killers. would the good guys kill a child of a thourghly evil civilisation because when that child grows up he will kill more people form the good guys country? would dwarves abvocate slaughtering duegar helpless would elves seek to kill drow kids .... both are inherently evil culturly and religiously in regards to the idea of an intrinsicly evil culture and religion equals/ natual instincts = evil it was said that we would have no problems with killing roaches and that lions will continue to consume meat. both are absolutely true but the differece between these examples and the orcs in question is that both the roach amd lion are not self-aware they have no choice in their actions or thoughts, they only follow instinct . the orcs on the other hand are sentient and thus have freedom of choice and as such can become good given the proper inviroment. though it is reasonable to assume that orc children would be more likely to grow up evil simply because of biological proneness to anger or violence just a few thoughts .. excuse the spelling and grammar [/QUOTE]
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