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Message: <blockquote data-quote="haakon1" data-source="post: 2558124" data-attributes="member: 25619">"Tender sensibilities"?  I feel a rant coming on.  Luckily I went back and editted this before it was out here too long.Anyhow, you say baby killing is OK for the greater good.  I say "end justifies the means" is what evil people say to justify evil.  To shorten and de-crazy what I said, I think you are what you do, and if you do evil, you just lost the war to evil.  Which is not to say I'm against war -- I'm just against evil.  Rare is the pacificist who plays D&D, I suspect.  Though I did have  a peacenic doper in my RECON campaign, who played a doper who fought when he had to, but didn't like "The System".  I say that I believe there's a REAL SOLID difference between Good and Evil in real life, and that I think the game is more interesting if you play it as if that were true, whether you believe it or not, because that "heroic" world view is most consistent with historical views on these matters, makes for more complicated stories and consequences, and is more consistent with heroic stories of old.You say I'm being modern.  I say moral relativism, not being that there's really such a thing as Good or Evil, "do unto others before they do unto you", is the modern thing here.Obviously, we're never going to agree, so eventually we're just going to annoy each other to death.   <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious    :]" data-shortname=":]" />  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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