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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 430633" data-attributes="member: 4937">"But that means the only real life paladin ever was Joan of Arc..."I don't know if I really want to say that there ever was a real life Paladin since 'Paladin' in a D&D sense is a very specialized term.  Certainly I believe that there were many lawful and good warriors - George Washinton makes a fine Chavalier if not a Paladin if you want to think in those terms.  But, that doesn't mean that I think he could 'Lay on Hands' necessarily, even if I do believe that there are people who can lay on hands.As for Joan of Arc, she is herself a literary figure (for that matter so is GW).  So, whether or not you want to have her a Paladin in some fantasy version of real life depends entirely on what version of her story you want to believe.  It is possible that she really was a Servant of God, a Divinely Inspired Holy Warrior, for whom God had charged (for reasons known only to him) with the task of liberating France from the English.  It is also possible that she is a delusional person who in her own mind was a Holy Warrior charged by God and was living in a world of her own imagining (quite unconsciously I'm sure).   In that case, she is more likely to be CN than LG - albeit a CN whose delusion is that she is LG and perforce would act within certain constraints required by her delusion (such as protecting her virginity).  I don't know what to believe.  Perhaps something in between the two extremes is possible.For all thier pretensions to 'honor', the vast majority of both Knights and Samurri's frequently acted in a way that can only be described as Chaotic Evil.   I suspect that only a few of them actually aspired to higher ideas, or even really understood what those higher ideas were.  Mostly you have greedy, self-serving, spoiled aristocrats.There is almost no reason for a 'Chavelier' class per se in 3rd. edition now that fighter has access to so many flavorful mounted combat feats.   In my own campaign, I tend to adopt more feats rather than making a prestige class.   The results seem to me to be pretty much the same.The literary chavelier that inspired the 1st edition class is certainly lawful and honorable to various degrees.  If you wanted to include it as a prestige class, certainly 'lawful only' would be useful flavor.</blockquote>

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