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Paladins at dinner parties: Polite or Truthful?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost" data-source="post: 431000" data-attributes="member: 4720"><p>Actually, seeing as he is unburdened with such irritating concepts as mercy and compassion(the core of what it means to be Good), Galad is, at best, LN. His self-righteous belief in his own superiority leans him in the LE direction, IMO.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This makes the assumption that deities think and act like mortals. Unless it's integral to the cosmology somehow, deities, IMO, are less concerned about the petty squabbles of mortals and who wins wars than they are about beliefs and ideas. Even a War god isn't necessarily all about who won a battle, he's more about who executed a brilliant tactical maneuver and who showed heroic behavior on the battlefield. Also, unlike mortals, a deity should be capable of comprehending absolutes, and I see no problem with good deities holding their paladins as close to absolute good as a mortal can get. That doesn't mean they need to forego intelligent tactics when confronted with evil, but it does mean they consider any definitively evil act, such as lying, wrong <em>all the time</em>. It's not wrong to lie to this guy over here because he's Good, but perfectly acceptable to lie to that one over there because he's evil. As Celebrim said, that shows total lack of conviction in your own morals, and it's sinking to their level. And what's the point of a paladin if he's just going to sink to their level? A paladin's supposed to be better than that.</p><p></p><p>I also believe that Good is more important than Lawful to paladins. And schmuck can be Lawful. It takes a strong person to be Good, even when it entails personal hardship. </p><p></p><p>IMO, your description of a paladin is Lawful Pragmatic with a hint of charity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost, post: 431000, member: 4720"] Actually, seeing as he is unburdened with such irritating concepts as mercy and compassion(the core of what it means to be Good), Galad is, at best, LN. His self-righteous belief in his own superiority leans him in the LE direction, IMO. This makes the assumption that deities think and act like mortals. Unless it's integral to the cosmology somehow, deities, IMO, are less concerned about the petty squabbles of mortals and who wins wars than they are about beliefs and ideas. Even a War god isn't necessarily all about who won a battle, he's more about who executed a brilliant tactical maneuver and who showed heroic behavior on the battlefield. Also, unlike mortals, a deity should be capable of comprehending absolutes, and I see no problem with good deities holding their paladins as close to absolute good as a mortal can get. That doesn't mean they need to forego intelligent tactics when confronted with evil, but it does mean they consider any definitively evil act, such as lying, wrong [i]all the time[/i]. It's not wrong to lie to this guy over here because he's Good, but perfectly acceptable to lie to that one over there because he's evil. As Celebrim said, that shows total lack of conviction in your own morals, and it's sinking to their level. And what's the point of a paladin if he's just going to sink to their level? A paladin's supposed to be better than that. I also believe that Good is more important than Lawful to paladins. And schmuck can be Lawful. It takes a strong person to be Good, even when it entails personal hardship. IMO, your description of a paladin is Lawful Pragmatic with a hint of charity. [/QUOTE]
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