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Paladins at dinner parties: Polite or Truthful?
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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 431287" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Chrisling: Both you and DragonBlade make very good points, and I agree with most of them.</p><p></p><p>That may seem contridictory to you.</p><p></p><p>I think that DragonBlade strays a little too far into Lawfulness when describing a Paladin, and perhaps you stray to far into Good. That is not to say that either of you are completely wrong, but that each of you present what I would consider the absolute extremes of behavior that a Paladin could live his life by and still be a Paladin.</p><p></p><p>The moral code you describe (and I would guess ascribe or aspire to) is almost certainly a form of True Good, and not mixed with the tensions and complexities of Lawful Goodness. It is in fact a more extreme and difficult code than a lawful good code in its own way. It doesn't make any exceptions for good because of law, nor any exceptions for law because of good. It has a mode of benevolent behavior that is unwavering.</p><p></p><p>I like that. There are far to many equivicating relativists out there today, and it is nice to have someone else on this thread who is willing to say 'no absolute means absolute'. I certainly respect any good philosophy, even if I think the philosophy you deccribe is perhaps even unwavering enough to make me uncomfortable (and I describe myself as NG in so far as the game term covers my real philosophy). That is not to say that it is wrong, merely that if it is right, I haven't gotten so far in my journey. I will say that I suspect that if your philosophy isn't more advanced toward enlightenment than my own, the clue is in this statement: "The reason why people are neutral and evil is because you have greater freedom of action." Do you really believe that is true?</p><p></p><p>Just because I'm courious, and seldom meet people who hold strongly to absolutist good philosophies more extreme than my own, do you mind addressing the critical tests of the branches True Good that lean toward pacifism in a strong way?</p><p></p><p>a) Suppose you are beaten and raped. Do you believe that person who did this should be arrested and if so why?</p><p></p><p>b) Suppose you discover that a child is being abused by its parents. To what lengths is it right to go to protect the child?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 431287, member: 4937"] Chrisling: Both you and DragonBlade make very good points, and I agree with most of them. That may seem contridictory to you. I think that DragonBlade strays a little too far into Lawfulness when describing a Paladin, and perhaps you stray to far into Good. That is not to say that either of you are completely wrong, but that each of you present what I would consider the absolute extremes of behavior that a Paladin could live his life by and still be a Paladin. The moral code you describe (and I would guess ascribe or aspire to) is almost certainly a form of True Good, and not mixed with the tensions and complexities of Lawful Goodness. It is in fact a more extreme and difficult code than a lawful good code in its own way. It doesn't make any exceptions for good because of law, nor any exceptions for law because of good. It has a mode of benevolent behavior that is unwavering. I like that. There are far to many equivicating relativists out there today, and it is nice to have someone else on this thread who is willing to say 'no absolute means absolute'. I certainly respect any good philosophy, even if I think the philosophy you deccribe is perhaps even unwavering enough to make me uncomfortable (and I describe myself as NG in so far as the game term covers my real philosophy). That is not to say that it is wrong, merely that if it is right, I haven't gotten so far in my journey. I will say that I suspect that if your philosophy isn't more advanced toward enlightenment than my own, the clue is in this statement: "The reason why people are neutral and evil is because you have greater freedom of action." Do you really believe that is true? Just because I'm courious, and seldom meet people who hold strongly to absolutist good philosophies more extreme than my own, do you mind addressing the critical tests of the branches True Good that lean toward pacifism in a strong way? a) Suppose you are beaten and raped. Do you believe that person who did this should be arrested and if so why? b) Suppose you discover that a child is being abused by its parents. To what lengths is it right to go to protect the child? [/QUOTE]
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