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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ralts Bloodthorne" data-source="post: 433199" data-attributes="member: 6390">This thread is really a good one.  No flaming, and actually staying on topic.Now, onto the points.A lot of this can be handled if your DM or yourself writes out a Paladin code.  Now, as to the dinner party, the horribly grotesquely deformed queen, and the kobolds, I suggest this....  Dinner Party:  A diplomatic response can be made without insulting anyone.  The Queen:  Don't make comments on her watermelon head and skiboat feet, comment on her good features, or good points.  The Kobolds:  Sadly enough, by having them come to the party, so you won't have to chase them down, makes sense.  Now, as to another point made:  Hacking down the villagers dominated by the vampire is LAZY!  It reeks of sloth, and casual blood-letting.  The easy road is often the one that leads to hell.  Now, everyone seems to forget, a Paladin is not the church unto him/herself.  You guys seem to be forgetting about such things as confession (12 Hail Mary's and I will no longer go to jail over the 23 school-kids I murdered?  Huzaah!) Indulgences (I grant to the right to go forth and strangle Lord Fuzzypot, in his sleep if need be, and let no-one know) Vows of chastity, silence, poverty, ugliness, ect (MiLord, I cannot accept the jewel of the seven desert winds as a reward for my services, for I have taken a vow of poverty) and wonderful church politics.    I have also noticed a tendency for a lot of DM's to punish the Paladin for being a Paladin.  People throw rocks at him, they hunt him down to kill him, and in general, disrespect.  Continued action of this sort would quickly lead to a powerful group of Blackguards outside of town.  DM's also forget that villagers would come to Paladins with thier problems, merchants would respect them, and petty criminals would hide from them.  Paladins should, and would recieve training in diplomacy, innuendo, bluff, intimidate, Knowledge (Religion, Nobility, Heraldry, Laws) so as to not embarrass themselves and thier god.  Plus, I extremely doubt that the Gods (however they act, aloof as the stars, or wenching and wining with mortals) would just suddenly snatch away a Paladin's paladinhood over minor transgressions without a few warnings first.  It would be understandable, if when faced with a foe that the Paladin could possibly defeat, or may die facing it, denies thier god and thier service the god relegates them back to LG fighter status.  I sincerly doubt that a Paladin stating that the food was more than adequate for a man of his simple tastes would be immollated in a lighting bolt.  On one other thing nobody has really touched on:  The food.  I personally could not care less what food tastes like.  It's fuel for the machine.  As long as I'm pretty sure that I won't get salmonella or botulism, I just grind it up and go my merry way.  I got really used to worrying more about getting the fuel I needed than worrying about taste and texture.  Perhaps the Paladin is like that, and suddenly realizes, he has no idea how the meal tasted, he was just mechanically grinding it up.</blockquote>

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