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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nemesis Destiny" data-source="post: 5747885" data-attributes="member: 98255">It's kind of wonky, but in the context of the rules, the word Target has a very specific meaning, and in the case of a mark punishment triggering, that meaning is applied in a specific way. "Level best" still means that the monster failed to meet the condition to avoid the punishment for violating the mark.What this is basically saying is that when the creature you have challenged makes an attack that does not target the paladin, the paladin gets to inflict damage, this is clear. In order for the behir in this case to actually target the paladin, as in choose him as a Target for any of its powers, it must have Line of Effect to that target. When creatures are swallowed by the behir's attack, like with most swallow attacks, no creature has line of effect to it, meaning, anything swallowed is not a rules legal Target for anything.Even close and area bursts and blasts have to have line of effect to their targets. In the case of area attacks, they determine line of effect from the origin square of the burst, and in order to target a square with an area attack you only need line of sight to it, but in this case you don't have that either, as it states in the swallow power that nothing has line of sight or line of effect to the swallowed creature. This is true even though they are in the same square.He only violates the mark if he makes an attack (hit or miss) and does not include the paladin among the Targets of that attack.Price of Cowardice only cares if the condition is met. The paladin doesn't need to see it happen. And the behir is still a valid target, since he was marked enemy making an attack that did not include the paladin. The paladin still has line of effect and line of sight to the behir, so he is free to target it with pretty much anything.Even if it was a fighter's mark being violated, the fighter could still trigger Combat Challenge, or another power based on these conditions. You can fluff it however you like. Maybe he can feel the beast moving in for the attack, all its muscles flexing to strike, and the fighter reacts. He doesn't care who is being Targetted, he only knows that this beast is attacking someone, and he isn't in on the fun. Time to do some damage from the inside!I hope this helps.</blockquote>

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