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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hejdun" data-source="post: 945765" data-attributes="member: 839">Well, while we're on this whole discussion, let's make Monks, Sorcerors, Rangers, Bards, Barbarians, and Druids PrCs too.  After all, those are specific archetypes also.Bard - A rogue that can sing and cast spells.  Rogue/Wizard fills that niche fine.Monks - Fighters with unarmed combat feats up the wazoo.Sorcerors - Wizards.Rangers - Fighter/Rogue specialized in TWF.Barbarians - Fighters with big axes.Druids - Nature clerics.Seriously, the paladin isn't worse than any of those.  The paladin is just as much a Fighter/Cleric as a bard is a Rogue/Wizard.  Does that mean the bard should also be a PrC?  The fact that paladins are specialized doesn't mean that they should be PrCs, otherwise Rangers should also get kicked down to PrC status.The paladin is still a far cry from previous editions' paladins.  The Code of Conduct basically says:1)  Don't be evil.2)  Respect good laws.3)  Don't cheat.4)  Don't lie.5)  Don't use poison.6)  Help the needy.7)  Punish evil.That's it.  That's the code.  If you follow those 7 things and remain Lawful Good, you can be a paladin just fine.  This leaves a lot of leeway, in fact, the only real things that are different from any other Lawful Good characters is the no cheating, no lying, no poison shtick.Well, here's one answer from the 2e Complete Paladin's Handbook:But, if you demand that there be an evil counterpart to paladins, then I demand that there be good counterparts to:AllipsBarghestsBodaksChimerasDevourersDridersTrollsUmber HulksVampire SpawnWill-o-WispWinter WolfWorgLichesVampiresetc.The argument "if good has it, why doesn't evil?" doesn't hold water, because otherwise there would be counterparts to everything.  Why aren't there good trolls?  Or vampires?  Or Liches?  Ad nauseam.</blockquote>

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