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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sejs" data-source="post: 945773" data-attributes="member: 4910">*nana-nana-nana-nana* ... Long Post!Because I'm a big sucker for debates on these sorts of things, my reponse: ^_^1) They fight injustice, he fights injustice - I see no conflict of interest.  Nothing about a paladin says they have to work hand-in-hand with anyone.  Particularly if he could easily get into places they couldn't.  First - not necessarily.  Also?  Yes.   If they were just running around and using Paladin-Radar, then attacking anyone who pinged positive for evil, they I would agree.  Detect Evil isn't faultless - it's a nice foot in the door, but it's not the be-all, end-all of spotting bad guys.  Also not that individual local laws have no bearing on a paladin's powers.  If local law states that you can't wear a red hat on tuesdays, under punishment of imprisonment (say the local duke is red/green colorblind and is terribly insulted by red hats)- a paladin that wears a red hat on tuesday does not lose their abilities.2)  "What's your name?"  Reis.  Reis Hioun.  "What're you doing out here?"  I'm traveling.  "What do you do, Reis?"  I'm a sword for hire.  "That's interesting, we could use another sword in this Such-And-Such quest if you'd be interested."  Sure.Problem?    Nope.  Not every time that someone asks "Hey, 'sup?" are you required to belt out your life's story.  No, they're quite different things.  Saying nothing is just that.. you say nothing.  Telling a half-truth isn't lying as long as you don't say something that is expressly un-true.  "Did you kill this guard?"  No.  (the serving girl killed him, I just watched) <~ was a party to the killing of the guard, but did not kill him; is therefor not lying to that question."Did you steal these loaves of bread?"  (Whole Truth):  No, Partholo did to feed the children he takes care of.(Half-Truth):  No.  (Lie):  Yes, I did.3)  A) who said anything about poison?  B) I said Assassin/Bounty Hunter-For-Good type.  I did not say just assassin.   So if I steal into the Evil Overlord's stronghold, bypass his hired guards, disable his traps, and CdG him while he sleeps, after confirming it's the right guy visually and with Detect Evil, then I'm evil?  I don't bloody well think so.    Bullfeathers.  A paladin can ambush, flank, coup de gras, snipe at, sneak past, or blackjack someone just as freely as the next guy.  A paladin does not have to march up openly to every opponent, declare themselves and then challenge said opponent to a right and honorable duel.  They have the option to, should they so choose, but it's not required  A paladin is not a parole officer.  If I'm a paladin and just stopped some guardsman from brutally raping some peasant girl who was screaming for help, I can beat the sob into a pulp, and turn him in, or I can just pull him off the girl and run him through then and there.  If I stop a person from burning down an occupied hospital, I don't have to issue him a subpoena.  I just need to stop them.   I fail to see where the words "blindly follow" or "without thinking about the situation" apply to a paladin anywhere in the books.  Lawful does not equal local laws.  Lawful good does not equal lawful stupid.4)  I'm single, she's single - where's the affair?  Who says a paladin can't be a horny skirt-chaser?  It's not related to his alignment in any way.5)  One slip up (and it'd have to be a pretty dang -bad- slip up), and there goes your powers.  One exp cost-free atonement later, and hey look! They're back again.  Also, not all people totally lose all their inhibitions when drunk.  And being a bottle-tipper doesn't mean you get totally and utterly 'faced whenever you drink.  A paladin who hits the sauce and does his Do-Gooding through a nice comfortable buzz is still a paladin.6)  There are degrees to pacifism, for starters.  While I personally wouldn't play a pacifist paladin, the one I've seen done was interesting.  Really good diplomacy and sense motive skills, was an absolute beast when it came to grappling, and could sunder weapons like nobody's buisness.~)  I disagree.</blockquote>

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