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<blockquote data-quote="Kevmann10583" data-source="post: 950595" data-attributes="member: 12506">Sejs,&nbsp;If they are unaware of the law they can not be held accountable.&nbsp; I do not know a single medieval town that has littering as a law.&nbsp; Some places have strange and exotic customs and laws (no red hats on Tuesdays) then yes, the paladin should compensate for them.&nbsp; And as for your last point DID YOU READ THE COMMANDMENT, Priestesses of Lolth are evil, and kill and enslave innocents, that is considered corrupt and therefore the paladin does not have to follow it.&nbsp;If you think lying is noble, then that is your opinion.&nbsp; To me, it is not.&nbsp;Ok, again, DID YOU EVEN READ THE COMMANDMENT?&nbsp; Ok, here is all a paladin has to do &quot;Evil Necromancer, I am here to make you pay for your crimes, bow to the courts.&quot;&nbsp; &quot;Are you a fool paladin?&nbsp; I shall never bow to you or anyone else!&quot;&nbsp; (IF the necromancer is obviously powerful) &quot;Then it is a fight to the death, the gods shall see who is guilty (smite evil)&quot;&nbsp; Or if the necromancer is not very powerful, subdual damage him to unconsciousness then MAKE him go to the courts.&nbsp; IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS, that if it is not apparent that they will show up, then the gods decided who is guilty or not (duel).&nbsp; Come on, you have to READ the commandment before you can argue it.&nbsp;Again, this is your opinion.&nbsp; My opinion is that no crime is worthy of death, but I think an eye for an eye suits well for medieval justice (and this does not mean that the paladin should rape rapists, I mean that a murder is worthy of murder, anything less is not worthy of murder).&nbsp;Guile and trickery are tools of evil to a person with a pure heart.&nbsp; And that does not mean you are dumb, were did you get that connection?&nbsp; And when I said weapon, I ment natural weapon, powerful spells, etc.&nbsp; And no, he will not go around the blockade, and he does not have to fight it either, that is why DIPLOMACY is on the paladin list of class skills.&nbsp;This is a difficult one to stomach, even for me, but if you read under the atonement spell, paladins do lose class abilities for unwillingly or unwittingly doing evil, this includes such spells as Dominate Person, etc.&nbsp;I am sorry, you do not have to insult me, I was writing quickly.&nbsp; I am sure I have several spelling mistakes across this one too, lets stick to the discussion at hand, shall we?&nbsp;There is always an alternative, a paladin should never willingly assosiate or deal with any evil, and a paladin would never choose an evil, even if it is lesser.&nbsp;No, because what is evil?&nbsp; You are not just evil, you are evil because you do evil acts.&nbsp; If the paladin does evil acts, he is just as bad as the evil he wishes to suppress.&nbsp;If the place has no laws, then a paladin can't really break them can he?&nbsp; And if a place has laws that kill for minor things, then the paladin must believe that the law is corrupt and therefore may break it.&nbsp;NO, he says &quot;Yes, I am protecting the soul you wish to kill.&nbsp; Now, lay down your weapon and lets speak of this, but if you attack, I will be forced to defend myself&quot;&nbsp; If you have a paladin that would say something else to an axe murder, then you have no paladin.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kevmann10583, post: 950595, member: 12506"] Sejs, If they are unaware of the law they can not be held accountable. I do not know a single medieval town that has littering as a law. Some places have strange and exotic customs and laws (no red hats on Tuesdays) then yes, the paladin should compensate for them. And as for your last point DID YOU READ THE COMMANDMENT, Priestesses of Lolth are evil, and kill and enslave innocents, that is considered corrupt and therefore the paladin does not have to follow it. If you think lying is noble, then that is your opinion. To me, it is not. Ok, again, DID YOU EVEN READ THE COMMANDMENT? Ok, here is all a paladin has to do "Evil Necromancer, I am here to make you pay for your crimes, bow to the courts." "Are you a fool paladin? I shall never bow to you or anyone else!" (IF the necromancer is obviously powerful) "Then it is a fight to the death, the gods shall see who is guilty (smite evil)" Or if the necromancer is not very powerful, subdual damage him to unconsciousness then MAKE him go to the courts. IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS, that if it is not apparent that they will show up, then the gods decided who is guilty or not (duel). Come on, you have to READ the commandment before you can argue it. Again, this is your opinion. My opinion is that no crime is worthy of death, but I think an eye for an eye suits well for medieval justice (and this does not mean that the paladin should rape rapists, I mean that a murder is worthy of murder, anything less is not worthy of murder). Guile and trickery are tools of evil to a person with a pure heart. And that does not mean you are dumb, were did you get that connection? And when I said weapon, I ment natural weapon, powerful spells, etc. And no, he will not go around the blockade, and he does not have to fight it either, that is why DIPLOMACY is on the paladin list of class skills. This is a difficult one to stomach, even for me, but if you read under the atonement spell, paladins do lose class abilities for unwillingly or unwittingly doing evil, this includes such spells as Dominate Person, etc. I am sorry, you do not have to insult me, I was writing quickly. I am sure I have several spelling mistakes across this one too, lets stick to the discussion at hand, shall we? There is always an alternative, a paladin should never willingly assosiate or deal with any evil, and a paladin would never choose an evil, even if it is lesser. No, because what is evil? You are not just evil, you are evil because you do evil acts. If the paladin does evil acts, he is just as bad as the evil he wishes to suppress. If the place has no laws, then a paladin can't really break them can he? And if a place has laws that kill for minor things, then the paladin must believe that the law is corrupt and therefore may break it. NO, he says "Yes, I am protecting the soul you wish to kill. Now, lay down your weapon and lets speak of this, but if you attack, I will be forced to defend myself" If you have a paladin that would say something else to an axe murder, then you have no paladin. [/QUOTE]

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