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Paladins in 3.5, why?
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<blockquote data-quote="sword-dancer" data-source="post: 958196" data-attributes="member: 1491"><p>No.</p><p>I like the Idea of a called champion.</p><p>And if you had followed the threads of Paladin discussions or the Pladin of the Boards unite you could have easily seen the differences in personality and POV of Paladins.</p><p>Look at the pally of Shark, Reapersaurus or Ranger Wickett.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Joan DÁrc, La Puccelle was a 15 Year old girl, who did really two things </p><p>1 They Put Faith and Morale Back in the man at arms of Franbce whose moral was after the number of defeats on the bottom of the seas</p><p>2 she died as a martyr.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Depending of the circumstances, I would consider it a higher priority to defend the life of innocents, then to close a few leaks in the police.</p><p> Not necessarilie, he could have chosen to hide the truth, because he didn`t trust them, because he wasn`t raised as a holy warrior, or out of humblety(right word?), or would consider himself a mercenary who fights for divine rewards.</p><p>btw the mercenary disguise might get you better along with soldiers, and freedom fighters than the holier than thou stick in .. behaviour.</p><p></p><p> He breaks his code if he is lying, and what is he doing if he says the truth and gives the nemy the information he needs to find his victims?</p><p>If the Pally breaks under torture, or fears to breake, isn`t it better to lie then to sacrifice others ?</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>How had you get the idea that you must use poison for an assassination?</p><p>How is it with an resistence Paladin?</p><p>Would you call the assassination of Reynhard Heydrich an evil or an good act?</p><p>This is clearly a grey Zone. Is Evil in your campaign equal to stupid evil?</p><p>You call Xaltotun Arch Demonologist, High Priest of Darkness to an Duell, Or Severas the Vampire Lord, Dealzeramon the Grat old Demon Wyrm?</p><p>You are Dead!</p><p>Or you Challenge an Illtihitd to asn duel?</p><p>Not twice IMC</p><p> Wrong, a PAldain stands for good first, lawful is he because ist is the best way to serve good, and the law he follows is his code not some mortal law.</p><p></p><p></p><p>How had you the impression that a paladin must live chaste and celibate? This is a cultural thing, depending on society and culture, maybe rules of the faith but nothing more. If sexual activiities out of marriage is in his culture accepatable, have no stigma on it, what is the problem with it?</p><p> And you get every time you get drunk a murderous rage? A little tavern brawl i wouldn`t consider a break of code serious enough to fall from grace.</p><p></p><p>I consider a paldin a human/eleven ... being not a saint, failures, small failures are possible, and acceptable, thats was the atonment spell and and retribution(right word?) is for.</p><p> Nice Picture<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p>I see the paladin refuse the quest to safe the innocents from the sacrifing chamber of the Darkness because he couldn`t hope in the last ot fulfill his mission to safe them without going undercover behind enemy lines.</p><p></p><p>btw I agree with your POV with the orc.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No this is a/the reason it should give Pally variants for all alignments.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sword-dancer, post: 958196, member: 1491"] No. I like the Idea of a called champion. And if you had followed the threads of Paladin discussions or the Pladin of the Boards unite you could have easily seen the differences in personality and POV of Paladins. Look at the pally of Shark, Reapersaurus or Ranger Wickett. Joan DÁrc, La Puccelle was a 15 Year old girl, who did really two things 1 They Put Faith and Morale Back in the man at arms of Franbce whose moral was after the number of defeats on the bottom of the seas 2 she died as a martyr. Depending of the circumstances, I would consider it a higher priority to defend the life of innocents, then to close a few leaks in the police. Not necessarilie, he could have chosen to hide the truth, because he didn`t trust them, because he wasn`t raised as a holy warrior, or out of humblety(right word?), or would consider himself a mercenary who fights for divine rewards. btw the mercenary disguise might get you better along with soldiers, and freedom fighters than the holier than thou stick in .. behaviour. He breaks his code if he is lying, and what is he doing if he says the truth and gives the nemy the information he needs to find his victims? If the Pally breaks under torture, or fears to breake, isn`t it better to lie then to sacrifice others ? How had you get the idea that you must use poison for an assassination? How is it with an resistence Paladin? Would you call the assassination of Reynhard Heydrich an evil or an good act? This is clearly a grey Zone. Is Evil in your campaign equal to stupid evil? You call Xaltotun Arch Demonologist, High Priest of Darkness to an Duell, Or Severas the Vampire Lord, Dealzeramon the Grat old Demon Wyrm? You are Dead! Or you Challenge an Illtihitd to asn duel? Not twice IMC Wrong, a PAldain stands for good first, lawful is he because ist is the best way to serve good, and the law he follows is his code not some mortal law. How had you the impression that a paladin must live chaste and celibate? This is a cultural thing, depending on society and culture, maybe rules of the faith but nothing more. If sexual activiities out of marriage is in his culture accepatable, have no stigma on it, what is the problem with it? And you get every time you get drunk a murderous rage? A little tavern brawl i wouldn`t consider a break of code serious enough to fall from grace. I consider a paldin a human/eleven ... being not a saint, failures, small failures are possible, and acceptable, thats was the atonment spell and and retribution(right word?) is for. Nice Picture:p I see the paladin refuse the quest to safe the innocents from the sacrifing chamber of the Darkness because he couldn`t hope in the last ot fulfill his mission to safe them without going undercover behind enemy lines. btw I agree with your POV with the orc. No this is a/the reason it should give Pally variants for all alignments. [/QUOTE]
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