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Message: <blockquote data-quote="paulewaug" data-source="post: 1146848" data-attributes="member: 5899">e3_jeb: "From Dusk till Dawn" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Kershek has the right idea-The alignment system is often sighted as a weakness of DnD Also the alignments are (poorly or not ymmv) defined in the phb(Re: D&D's implied setting one major thing to keep in mind is this<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />....Taken from page 103 of D&D phb v3.5:"Good and evil are not philosophical concepts in the D&D game. They are forces that define the cosmos."Now Lots of people run things different in their own games or in games they play in but do keep in mind that those are personal changes to the default system and when discussing the (difficult and often debated) issue of alignmentYour personal changes do not apply to the default setting that most people may be using.  I commend Joe for presenting his case so well and I am of the same opinion as he is.  In D&D Evil Is Evil.  Not just "sin" or having naughty thoughts and thinking about "doing wrong"  it means you do truly bad Evil things and most likely Without conscience.That merchant or baker walking down the street that just detected as evil?  That was because he was Sweeny Todd or Jack the Ripper, not just some guy looking at a hot chick and thinking "man I'd like to hit it with her" while also thinking "if only (my competitor's name here) was dead..I could kill him...my business would be so much better and then I'd be filthy rich and smoke all the weed  I want and own a dragon love slave."Orcs tend to be evil as a race because as a race they are rapists and murderers By the default setting.  In your own campaign versions you can run it different, but as the system stands in print this is how things are.  Kobolds in the MM are presented as...."(Usually Lawful evil)..."with cowardly and sadistic tendencies. .... not averse to eating intelligent beings ... (prisoners) occasionally sell some  as slaves ....Their nasty habits and distrust of most other beings mean that they have many enemies. ...The patron deity ... despises all living creatures except kobolds."Hey, feel free to run them different. D&D really does need to be run to you and your group’s tastes.  When I ran "Sunless" I ran most of the kobold clan as being much more neutrally inclined, including Meepo.  He really does come off the best as a neutral party,  Yusdrayl (Imho) is best used as Lawful evil."I enjoy playing some morality in my game to make things dramatic, but sometimes you have to be careful to not over do it and bog the game down in difficult philosophical issues.  If you want to use D&D as a catalyst for philosophical discussion that's great if it is fun for you.  Mostly wd just like to goof off and kick on some bad guys heads.  YMMVKeep up the good work Joe! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />BTW  it's always "fun" to watch these frequent My Paladin" threads to into a Huge debate over alignment and evil and the apparently very difficult to agree upon Paladin code of behavior!!   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />ok I've said my peace, back to the fun!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~`</blockquote>

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