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<blockquote data-quote="Arravis" data-source="post: 1147747" data-attributes="member: 327"><p>LuYangShih:</p><p>I think we have to judge people on what they do, not just what they think about doing. As was said earlier... some of us have had some pretty evil thoughts we've never acted on. Does that make us worthy to be killed by a paladin? Also, I don't see how you assume that the kobolds would ever have an impact on the town. Seems merely like a rationalization. On the issue of evil being something you're born with or that you learn... if we assume that evil is something you're not born with but something that you become (Demons and Devils aren't "born" evil, they commited acts of hineous evil in their previous life, it's something they've earned), then you can't just assume that the kobolds have commited evil acts deserving of death. Have they been selfish and callous... probably, does that mean they should be slaughtered? I'd say no.</p><p></p><p>Kershek:</p><p>I meant droll in a fluffy way... not something serious, just sci-fy eye-candy. Anyway... might be something I rent <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. Thanks for the recommendation.</p><p></p><p>WizarDru:</p><p>I think you're exactly right on why we seem unable to find a common ground. Very astute <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.</p><p>To me, alignment is something you earn. Good or bad, you've worked hard to be the alignment you are. I don't view it as something that just "happens" to you. I see alignments as something that's dynamic, not static. People (and creatures) change over their lifetimes depending on their circumstances. Some towards good, some towards evil. By killing someone you remove any hope of redemption, any hope of change. You remove all their choices and remove their most basic freedom, that of life. Yes, somethings are deserving of this perhaps... but it's something that should be done only in the most dire of circumstances and be taken with the seriousness it deserves. Anyway... good post overall <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arravis, post: 1147747, member: 327"] LuYangShih: I think we have to judge people on what they do, not just what they think about doing. As was said earlier... some of us have had some pretty evil thoughts we've never acted on. Does that make us worthy to be killed by a paladin? Also, I don't see how you assume that the kobolds would ever have an impact on the town. Seems merely like a rationalization. On the issue of evil being something you're born with or that you learn... if we assume that evil is something you're not born with but something that you become (Demons and Devils aren't "born" evil, they commited acts of hineous evil in their previous life, it's something they've earned), then you can't just assume that the kobolds have commited evil acts deserving of death. Have they been selfish and callous... probably, does that mean they should be slaughtered? I'd say no. Kershek: I meant droll in a fluffy way... not something serious, just sci-fy eye-candy. Anyway... might be something I rent :). Thanks for the recommendation. WizarDru: I think you're exactly right on why we seem unable to find a common ground. Very astute :). To me, alignment is something you earn. Good or bad, you've worked hard to be the alignment you are. I don't view it as something that just "happens" to you. I see alignments as something that's dynamic, not static. People (and creatures) change over their lifetimes depending on their circumstances. Some towards good, some towards evil. By killing someone you remove any hope of redemption, any hope of change. You remove all their choices and remove their most basic freedom, that of life. Yes, somethings are deserving of this perhaps... but it's something that should be done only in the most dire of circumstances and be taken with the seriousness it deserves. Anyway... good post overall :). [/QUOTE]
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