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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5861141" data-attributes="member: 9037">Not everybody feels this way a lot of people feel very differently about it and don't see it as toxic. Some people view things like this as a form of balance or even a way to define a class. Every class has some kind of restrictions built in. Also I will admit  I am wore bell bottoms when they were in fashion your implication that only us old farts feel this way is not true. My son is 33 his gaming group is made up of guys and gals his age and younger they play 3.5/Pathfinder and they want alignment in their games and like alignment restrictions. I have 20 somethings in my game and they feel the same way. And I like to point out that you can also do alignment free as a module and have an alignment free paladin.It just amazes me when people say this does not belong core or that does belong in core. What belongs in core is what the game designers decide will be core. What ever they decide some people will be thrilled and some won't and it has been that way in every edition. I don't see why we can't discuss difference without trying to imply that one way is the best or right way. I think discussions like this would go better if words like shackles, toxic were left out of it.I love alignment and I never felt or looked at as a shackle of any kind but as a tool to help me develop the role playing aspect of my character.</blockquote>