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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fishbone" data-source="post: 2962464" data-attributes="member: 40849"><p>The MAD really isn't that necessary. Just make the casting Charisma dependant. Then the class still has 3 stats to worry about (Strength, Charisma, Constitution). But no, wisdom dictates casting. So a class with 3 core stat worries has to make his wisdom 14 to cast. Boo, Half caster level and the MAD associated from spellcasting make the casting not worth it. Making it solely charisma based is too powerful. And why should a violent sword and boarding full plated crusader be able to cast spells anyhow? In history class I don't recall Saladin casting Cure Moderate Wounds at 10th caster level in the heat of battle. It rings false. I know Dungeons and Dragons is "High Magic" but does that mean every other bloody class and prestige class needs to be able to cast spells? Remove Disease, whoopity doo. I'm really down on the Paladin being able to cast spells. Give it Leadership or Sense Motive or oratory/rhetorical skills, more skills at creation, boosts to skills, bump its HD, beef up the mount, something, ANYTHING other than spellcasting. I also would like a more Zealot approach, but the Favored Soul has that on lock right now(Class is fantastic, ought to be core). As is it seems every Paladin is a LG blue eyed blonde haired Human clanger riding his unicorn or dire lion.</p></blockquote><p></p>