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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Samhaine" data-source="post: 4210303" data-attributes="member: 4873">If I'm reading the fix correctly, these will all still at least be marginally useful, since you can use your minor to mark on the end of your turn and don't have to make an attack or lose the mark until the next round when you have both a marked enemy and a chance to move near or attack. So you attack the foes you're in melee with, then challenge to try to reel in a target off the squishies. Until your next turn, it's marked. It gets shocked if it takes its attack against anyone but you for its turn that round, and may even get shocked again if the squishy tries to run and it makes an OA (I'm not sure whether the damage is on any kind of attacks, or just main attack). Particularly if it got shocked for making an OA, and the squishy is now at range, the monster is going to have a hard decision whether to chase the squishy and get another shock, or move up to the paladin.Next turn, if the monster chose to keep going after the squishy despite the damage, then the paladin has to decide whether to really focus his attention on it, or let the mark lapse and wait until the next turn to mark something else. Even if the paladin stays engaged, he's able to keep marks on roving monsters at least half the time.</blockquote>