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Message: <blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 5041350" data-attributes="member: 51942">I don't have a problem with lay on hands.  The peak power I'm referring to here is the fact that you can use it quite often per encounter.  What I see happening is that the leader does the "normal" healing, but when the inevitable really hard encounter comes by, the paladin can simply use his (daily) resources all in that one encounter - and in that one (hard) encounter, the paladin actually heals more than most leaders.  For a chaladin, who'se primary stat is Cha, HS + 2x Cha is quite a lot, and can slightly out heal most leaders even in a single burst, though not the cleric (that's if the paladin spends feats and the leader does not).  In any case, a paladin around 4-8th level might well have 20Cha and 16-18Wis, for quite a bit of usages with quite a large bonus.In any case, it's obviously roughly as strong as a leaders heal (depending on level and what the leader's built like), so the higher number of usages in a single encounter can matter.  No, he's not a full replacement - it's a daily power, not an encounter power, but it really is quite good.</blockquote>