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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 3365184" data-attributes="member: 1879">The Cleric is already the most powerful of the base classes, in contention with the Druid. What more could he need? Futhermore the cleric has no mechanical downside to being unclericish. Sure the GM can mess with a cleric of hironeous who makes a hobby out of torching ophanages, but there is no call for him to do so by the RAW. The Paladin is held to a higher standard then anybody. Hmmm. On second thought there is one other class that can srew itself without GM intervention. The druid, who only loses his powers for 24 hours, and is in the top 2 in any event. And the Paladin is not the footsoldier of the faith IMHO, he is it's general. Every town has a Cleric (Unless you're in Eberron where the average village priest is an expert or adept.), but Paladins are few and far between. How many NPC paladins have you encountered who weren't actively campaigning?</blockquote>