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<blockquote data-quote="Weregrognard" data-source="post: 6027877" data-attributes="member: 26396"><p>Fair enough. I don't think I'm communicating well at all here, either <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I was referring to your question about why you would change your dietary habits. You don't have any (apparent) problems, so you don't need to. That's your answer. </p><p></p><p>When I say "check this stuff out", I don't mean for you to buy a book and take what the author is saying on faith. What I am saying is that the information is out there, there's a lot of it, and I can't possibly explain all of it to a convincing degree in this thread. Therefore, it's up to the individual to research and decide for themselves.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Quickleaf, Elf Witch, and Janx, thank you for explaining this better than I can <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>To sum up a few problems with "calories-in-calories-out" as a bottom line solution to weight (fat) accumulation:</p><p></p><p>- Amounts of food (conflated with "calories" here, I feel) matter, but calorie-counting is suspect, because not all calories are the same. By extension, so are standard serving sizes.</p><p></p><p>- All metabolic rates are not the same, so a standard amount of "calories out" activity required by a human being on a daily basis (as the fitness industry would like you to believe) is also supect. This is up for some <a href="http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0040503" target="_blank">debate</a>. Please note that I feel sports and exercise are valuable for their own sake, just not as a complete solution to weight control.</p><p></p><p>- Equating a complex biological system with a mechanical one is problematic, which is what happens when one appeals to the Law of Thermodynamics. For example, the commonly-used car engine analogy. Even so, you don't fix your car's engine by putting in less gas and driving it more.</p><p></p><p>Under normal circumstances the body self-regulates how much food to eat (i.e. feeling hungry/full), and what to do with it (use, store, and/or waste). This is where "calories-in-calories-out" seems like the simplest solution. However, someone with a malfunctioning metabolism (usually, but not always, overweight/obese) can't do this, especially when continuing to eat the foods (processed carbohydrates and sugar), that are likely responsible in the first place. In this light, excess fat accumulation is not a disease, but a symptom. This is part of Taubes' alternative <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/01/opinion/sunday/what-really-makes-us-fat.html?_r=0" target="_blank">hypothesis </a>on obesity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Weregrognard, post: 6027877, member: 26396"] Fair enough. I don't think I'm communicating well at all here, either :) I was referring to your question about why you would change your dietary habits. You don't have any (apparent) problems, so you don't need to. That's your answer. When I say "check this stuff out", I don't mean for you to buy a book and take what the author is saying on faith. What I am saying is that the information is out there, there's a lot of it, and I can't possibly explain all of it to a convincing degree in this thread. Therefore, it's up to the individual to research and decide for themselves. Quickleaf, Elf Witch, and Janx, thank you for explaining this better than I can :D To sum up a few problems with "calories-in-calories-out" as a bottom line solution to weight (fat) accumulation: - Amounts of food (conflated with "calories" here, I feel) matter, but calorie-counting is suspect, because not all calories are the same. By extension, so are standard serving sizes. - All metabolic rates are not the same, so a standard amount of "calories out" activity required by a human being on a daily basis (as the fitness industry would like you to believe) is also supect. This is up for some [URL="http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0040503"]debate[/URL]. Please note that I feel sports and exercise are valuable for their own sake, just not as a complete solution to weight control. - Equating a complex biological system with a mechanical one is problematic, which is what happens when one appeals to the Law of Thermodynamics. For example, the commonly-used car engine analogy. Even so, you don't fix your car's engine by putting in less gas and driving it more. Under normal circumstances the body self-regulates how much food to eat (i.e. feeling hungry/full), and what to do with it (use, store, and/or waste). This is where "calories-in-calories-out" seems like the simplest solution. However, someone with a malfunctioning metabolism (usually, but not always, overweight/obese) can't do this, especially when continuing to eat the foods (processed carbohydrates and sugar), that are likely responsible in the first place. In this light, excess fat accumulation is not a disease, but a symptom. This is part of Taubes' alternative [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/01/opinion/sunday/what-really-makes-us-fat.html?_r=0"]hypothesis [/URL]on obesity. [/QUOTE]
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