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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 2840529" data-attributes="member: 10177">There are also a lot like me, own a lot of RIFTS and Paladium Fanatasy, and other books, and left because we realized Kevin wasn't going to revamp the system so we moved on and found better systems with which to use the RIFTS setting and O.C.C.'s, and have a lot more fun because we aren't spending so much time tinkering with the system and writing up pages (12+ pages, in my case) of house rules to deal with them.I really like the setting, the concepts, and the ideas, but the system sucks, and still does. Until he fixes it Kevin will never win people like me back into the fold.Plus the fact that I have found BESM by Guardians of Order to be such and excellent replacement system he will now have an even bigger problem getting me to come back. Plus when I get tired of my current games of Castles and Crusades and my Castles and Crusades Traveller (used the SIEGE engine of C&C and kept the game skills based), I'll look into adapting the C&C SIEGE engine into running a RIFTS campaign. If I successfully do that then I will never go back, no need or desire will exist.</blockquote>