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<blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 4625625" data-attributes="member: 63763"><p>There is a reason there are only 6 types of armors, they wanted each armor type to be used, thus, there are characters that have each armor type as a cap, and even someone with only light shield proficiency. They also made most of the armors give a "penalty" for going up the ladder, with the exception of scale. The cost of scale being that you need a certain number of feats to get into it which can be a hefty investment.</p><p> </p><p>If no one uses armor type X, why have armor type X. Thus you have the leaders 'capped' at chain armor, having to increase certain scores to be able to "buy" scale. Plate becomes a special case because it has a high purchase cost feat/stat-wise, and penalizes the player with a high ACP. However, unlike the other heavy armors, you will automatically qualify for specialization unless you were a paladin, part of why it has no secondary benefit (while the other armor specs are counter intuitive, since heavy armor doesn't favor dex as much, and hide armor would want dex or int maximized, and wouldn't want to have to put too much into con, except perhaps an warlock).</p><p> </p><p>Basically, it allowed the classes to be slightly different from each other, give them options, etc ... Most feats, except for going from cloth to leather, and perhaps leather/hide to chain are only going to give a +1 AC boost. That's a small enough bonus that it becomes a question for the player about whether or not it's worth the increase. In most cases (leather to hide, or scale to plate) there are also penalties fo the step up, with chain to scale being the only one with obvious benefits in addition ot the AC boost. Finding the right balance where the increased AC is an option, but not an obvious one is interesting. Instead of having a lot of armor that is "only if I get stuck with it because it's magic" or "I'm getting the cheaper alternative at the moment, because I can't afford the better one yet."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WalterKovacs, post: 4625625, member: 63763"] There is a reason there are only 6 types of armors, they wanted each armor type to be used, thus, there are characters that have each armor type as a cap, and even someone with only light shield proficiency. They also made most of the armors give a "penalty" for going up the ladder, with the exception of scale. The cost of scale being that you need a certain number of feats to get into it which can be a hefty investment. If no one uses armor type X, why have armor type X. Thus you have the leaders 'capped' at chain armor, having to increase certain scores to be able to "buy" scale. Plate becomes a special case because it has a high purchase cost feat/stat-wise, and penalizes the player with a high ACP. However, unlike the other heavy armors, you will automatically qualify for specialization unless you were a paladin, part of why it has no secondary benefit (while the other armor specs are counter intuitive, since heavy armor doesn't favor dex as much, and hide armor would want dex or int maximized, and wouldn't want to have to put too much into con, except perhaps an warlock). Basically, it allowed the classes to be slightly different from each other, give them options, etc ... Most feats, except for going from cloth to leather, and perhaps leather/hide to chain are only going to give a +1 AC boost. That's a small enough bonus that it becomes a question for the player about whether or not it's worth the increase. In most cases (leather to hide, or scale to plate) there are also penalties fo the step up, with chain to scale being the only one with obvious benefits in addition ot the AC boost. Finding the right balance where the increased AC is an option, but not an obvious one is interesting. Instead of having a lot of armor that is "only if I get stuck with it because it's magic" or "I'm getting the cheaper alternative at the moment, because I can't afford the better one yet." [/QUOTE]
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