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<blockquote data-quote="Mathew_Freeman" data-source="post: 4266504" data-attributes="member: 1846">It is a bit of a mental adjustment from 3e, I agree.But the point of minions is allowing characters to fight multiple monsters at all levels without the game getting bogged down in long, drawn out fights.Those level 25 minions, as noted, are only relevant to the PC's - as that's the only time their HP are important to anything. Anything that's Off-Camera can be decided by the DM - but when those guys are On-Camera the PC's get to shine and be heroes and kick some ass.4e really focusses things on the PC's as central to the game. Does it really matter what stats a creature has when it's not in direct relation to the PC's? Surely if a Giant attacked a village you wouldn't roll it out, you'd just adjudicate - but if you want the PC's to turn up and heroically kill it instantly, make it a minion and it just dies. However, until it's dead it's a serious threat to them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mathew_Freeman, post: 4266504, member: 1846"] It is a bit of a mental adjustment from 3e, I agree. But the point of minions is allowing characters to fight multiple monsters at all levels without the game getting bogged down in long, drawn out fights. Those level 25 minions, as noted, are only relevant to the PC's - as that's the only time their HP are important to anything. Anything that's Off-Camera can be decided by the DM - but when those guys are On-Camera the PC's get to shine and be heroes and kick some ass. 4e really focusses things on the PC's as central to the game. Does it really matter what stats a creature has when it's not in direct relation to the PC's? Surely if a Giant attacked a village you wouldn't roll it out, you'd just adjudicate - but if you want the PC's to turn up and heroically kill it instantly, make it a minion and it just dies. However, until it's dead it's a serious threat to them. [/QUOTE]

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