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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Anax" data-source="post: 4266868" data-attributes="member: 19868">The three highest level minions in the MM are:level 26: Lich Vestigelevel 23: Abyssal Ghoul Myrmidonlevel 22: Grimlock FollowerOf these, the Lich Vestige and the Abyssal Ghoul Myrmidon are somewhat special.  The Vestige is explicitly described as being dangerous but so weak that it can easily crumble to dust.  The Abyssal Ghoul Myrmidon is dangerous precisely because of something bad that happens when it dies.The Grimlock Follower, however, is a pretty standard sort of minion, one designed as a mook to pad out the ranks to make for a "big" fight.As for the credible threat thing: Remember that these things come in groups.  Is a single rat a credible threat to a level 1 character?  What about a swarm of rats?  Same sort of idea, only in swarm case you describe the effects in aggregate (because the constituents are quite small), and in the group of minions case, you distinguish each individual (because it's hard to miss an individual  ogre all up in your grill.)</blockquote>