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Message: <blockquote data-quote="VannATLC" data-source="post: 4270464" data-attributes="member: 60935">I've done that combat, though it was 28 minions and 1 controller vs 8pcs.The PCs win, and handily.That's an inbalanced encounter because my party has 2 wizards and a dragonborn, and wiped out half the minions in turn. It did, of course, burn through a few powers, but it was the middle of the encounter run, and only one daily was used.I'll run through 20 vs the pregens from KOTS. I don't expect it to be much more draining than a standard encounter.My current party will be facins 10 times their number of minions, as well as several normal creatures, and a solo, this weekend, in an 'encounter' that I expect to span about 12 minutes of actual game time. There are some opportunites for short rests, if they find them.</blockquote>