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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4270568" data-attributes="member: 2011">This was a couple of years ago, so I do not remember all of the details.24 Ogres, ogres attacked in something like a wave of 6 ogres each round, so yes, it was not until round 4 or so that all of the ogres were there (the ogres were spread out over this complex). And the ogres had to move up to the party, so some threw ranged weapons as they approached and some just ran in.5 PCs level 7, Wizard, Paladin/Annointed Knight, Favored Soul, Ranger/Fighter, Cleric.PC AC (for front liners) in mid-20s (I think after Magic Circle of Protection IIRC).The room was something like 80x80 with multiple entrances. The PCs were eventually able to huddle a bit in a corner and used some pillars for partial cover. I remember Fireball, Web, Black Tentacles, and Summon Monster spells were cast (the Favored Soul was a SM specialist and kept pulling in Hippogriffs).I suspect that there was also foreshadowing, so the PCs probably had some protective/buff spells up before the fight, but it was too long ago to remember exactly. And I remember that it was such a long encounter that the Paladin even brought her special mount warhorse in to fight (and it got snuffed which ticked her off).I also remember that many of the Ogres attempted grapples and overruns (in order to break through to the spell casters), and were successful in some cases, but the problem for the Ogres was that the PCs bottled up the area and forced many of the Ogres to rely on ranged attacks. But, that's the point of PC tactics. Take away the advantages of your opponents. In the case of a large mob, make it hard for them to all attack at the same time, or at least with their best attacks.It's not so much that the Ogres did not use good tactics, it's that the PCs used better ones. Without any spell casters on their side and with lousy ranged attacks, the Ogres could not use their advantage in numbers because the PCs did not just dumbly stand in the middle of the room.</blockquote>

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