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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 3644280" data-attributes="member: 9037">People coming off non chemical addictions can have some pretty nasty withdrawal symptoms. They suffer severe anixety the kind that can cause hypervenlation and can lead to such a bad panic attack they nned to be sedated. They become so depressed that they can become a danger to themselves as they become suicidal. I do voulnterr work at a mental health organization one of the things I do is man the help lines and over the years I have talked to different kinds of addicts and one thing they all have in common is deep pain and shame. It is far worse than just being sad and snippy.I had one client whose addiction to gambling was ruining her life. She was losing her job, custody of her kids and was on the edge of suicide.  She had been caught stealing from her place of employment to feed her gambling habit. She eventually came in for help. I have sat in on the addiction group  so that I can get a better idea of how to help when someone calls and I can tell from listening to these addicts storie's regardless of their chosen addiction the pain and anguish they go through is the same regardless of what kind of addiction they have.Sure detoxing from herion or cocaine is physically hard you can die from it. It should be done in a hospital setting where you can be medicated for the worst of it. But I can tell you this none of the counselors play the which is worse game because they have all seen just how bad it  is for some one who is addicted regardless of what they are addicted to. We had a clint several months ago end her life over her shopping addicition. Having your life destroyed because of drugs or say gambling ends in the same result having a destroyed life.As for being in control of their actions when drug addicts first chose to use they are in control of their actions they choose to become addicts. And if you endanger your children while under the influence say like the this couple did you will be facing jail time. Because being an addicted does not migate any of your responsibility to your children.While detoxing your body is hard and dangerous changing your thoughts is hard as well it is not as easy as you seem to be implying. People with chemical addictions get the double whammy of having to deal with physical as well as emotional addiction. No one denies that at first they have the harded road but once they are detoxed they are in the same boat as any other addict dealing with the issues that led them to addiction in the first place.You don't seem to have an idea what it is like for the addict. The gambler who has ruined his family finances and hates himself feels deep shame and tries to stop but then the anxiety starts soon he is plagued with non stop thoughts of going to the track amd he breaks down and goes and hates himself more and they cycle just gets worse. And he dosen't have the excuse of a chemical addiction he knows this and he knows that he should have more self control which makes him hate himself more. He starts not sleeping he can't concentrate on his work he becomes depressed. He is plagued with thoughts of suicide I mean after all look at what a horrible person he has become.  When you hear the stories of how these people feel about themselves the depth of their pain you realize that they are suffering in a different way they someone going through detox but they are suffering.In the addiction group you don't hear a herion addict going on to say a sex addict how much worse their addiction was they understand just what the sex addict is going through and how hard it is to stop. And yes part of the addiction of a herion addict is the drug but they will tell you if it was not herion it would have been something else.</blockquote>

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